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The idea of using public transportation. It's something for "them" (the poor), not for "me" (rich). Changes significantly from country to country, I suppose, but it's a prevalent thought here.
That certainly clears things up ...
Is that necessary to clear up though? It's a perfectly fine anecdotal statement that doesn't require exacts unless you're just trying to argue they're wrong. No one else is having problems responding with the information provided.
Brazil as a whole. Better?
Public transportation is good. Sanitation on public transportation in America is bad.
I got very adept at touching nothing while riding a bumpy subway car in New York, but even that couldn’t always save me from the puddle of piss that ran like a heat seeking stream from the legs of the mentally ill.
Idk at least in the US, riding a train is a nice experience. I liked it. But riding busses is often rather unpleasant. But I only have limited experience to only a portion of the US.
I noticed in the States that if its a bus, its a chariot for the poor. If its a train, its for everyone.
I am by no means poor and I save a lot of money by not having a car, but the fact of the matter is that people give me rides more than I would like. Even in Portland, a city with relatively good transit for its size given that it's in the US, most of the city is still quite inaccessible.
TBF considering how slow/unreliable and infrequent it tends to be, it’s hard to believe anyone would use it if they didn’t have other options. Even in my city (where buses run 30 minutes instead of every hour as is common elsewhere), it takes an hour and 15 minutes to get somewhere that’s a straight 15 minute freeway drive by car. And it’s worse in larger cities where buses are delayed by traffic such that you miss your transfer.
And it’s not like improvements like BRT or light rail will change it much considering how often they run in boulevards with 35mph speed limits and stop lights vs the 65mph grade separated freeways. Even a grade separated subway would be slower than driving unless it had spaced out stops, but then walking to said stops would take a lot of time (plus we couldn’t afford one, especially not one that actually serves the sprawl).
Under these conditions, it’s understandable to not even bother considering it as an option.