Return of the Obra Dinn: Amazing mystery/detective game. However once you've played it, you basically can't play it again as you remember the solution already and the challenge of the game is trivialized.
Chants of Sennaar: Really great game about deciphering languages. However, once again, by playing the game once, you'll remember the languages and the game has no challenge any more.
Outer Wilds: Mystery adventure game. There is some replayability as there are perhaps areas that you can still explore, but largely once you figure out the mystery and complete the game, there's not much more to experience. Some people speedrun the game though.

All of the above games I value extremely highly even though I only played them ~8-10 hours.

Do you have any others?

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[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also... A big part of playing Death Loop was figuring out the proper order to kill everybody. ... and sadly, there's only one order that will work. So once you know the order, a big part of the challenge is eliminated.

It would have been really cool if the game selected a random ordering for your character at new game start and each target's vulnerable timing changes accordingly. Something similar to how some of Dishonored's missions could have multiple solutions.

... but I get why they didn't. Dishonored had mission variants just switch up some text which is relatively cheap compared to having fully different behaviors and speech and so on that would need to be created just for the tiny set of players that not only finish but replay a game.

As someone who played through Dishonored 1,2 and all their respective DLCs multiple times, I was sad that Death Loop didn't have the same level of repayablity baked into the overarching structure, but I still quite enjoyed the game itself. I just finished it once and moved on.

[–] nawa@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I don't mind that there's only one winning order too much. Could be cool to have more options but I'm okay with that design choice. Like you said, it's a lot of effort for not a lot of players. I could still vary the gameplay during the missions and that's good enough. Besides, I enjoyed the world and the characters more than in any other Arkane game, maybe on par with Prey, can't put one above the other.