I'm pretty sure I've told you this before but not all of us that grew up in the USSR had the same experiences as you did. Mine were far less positive.

"Nationalistic bubbles" exist both ways.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can find people who are unhappy in every human society, that's not the gotcha you seem to think it is. The question is whether a society is able to provide a decent life for the majority of the people. Given the horrors we are seeing after the collapse of USSR, I think the answer to which system is better is pretty clear.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My family were killed by the Communists (and the Nazis for that mater) for being Jewish so that's a big "nah bro I think I'll pass" from me.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, because there have been no genocides under capitalism. Turns out Jewish people aren't above doing a little genocide of their own once they get in charge either as we see in Israel. So, maybe don't make an idiotic argument blaming communism for something that has absolutely fuck all to do with communism.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First of all big ole whataboutismw. On context we are discussing what Soviets did. We can have a separate conversation re: capitalism, which I'm sure we'd hugley align.

Second, I am very much anti Israel for exactly those reason, free Palestine ✊ but it's your second whataboutism...

Third, Soviet Russia literally killed gay people, Jews, etc. Hell they liberated Jews from camps only to send them to the gulag.

Stalin literally made homosexuality illegal.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

First of all, whataboutism is just a way to create a double moral standard and anybody calling whataboutism exposes themselves as being intellectually bankrupt. The context is you claiming that communist system is responsible for the problems USSR had. That's obvious nonsense given that exact same problems and worse exist under capitalism. Last I checked a bunch of US states have sodomy laws today.

Second, Israel is an example capitalist shithole with a predominantly Jewish population, so can't blame the genocide there on communism and the soviets.

Third, the west has killed far more people of all kinds than Russia did. Yet, you ally with the west and see it as a friend. So, clearly you don't give a shit about people being killed, turns out that you're just a racist who hates Russians. You'll happily dig up an ancient document from Stalin while ignoring the fact that your trusted allies are doing the exact thing you're decrying happening in USSR. Way to show utter lack of intellectual integrity here.

You've also wandered very far from the original point here which was that the communist system objectively resulted in better conditions for majority of the people than the capitalist hell that followed it. You completely ignored that and went on completely vapid rant that has nothing to do with the point I was making.