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Is the "g factor" just a rebranding of IQ, or is there any scientific basis for it? (awful.systems)
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The Wiki page is voluminous enough to approach gish galloping, and the Talk page is almost as big https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)

Asking because someone in another forum basically said that while IQ might be discredited, "g" is valid.

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[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

isn’t psychometrics the part of Talos I where you get the psychoscope?

the gish gallop that forms the majority of this article looks like an attempt to signal jam the criticisms section (which itself isn’t anywhere near as damning as it should be):

Research on the G-factor, as well as other psychometric values, has been widely criticized for not properly taking into account the eugenicist background of its research practices.[157] The reductionism of the G-factor has been attributted to having evolved from "pseudoscientific theories" about race and intelligence.[158] Spearman's g and the concept of inherited, immutable intelligence were a boon for eugenicists and pseudoscientists alike.[159]

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Some especially harsh critics have called the g factor, and psychometrics, as a form of pseudoscience.[161]

fascists will do anything to feel superior about a number they made up, and renaming IQ now that it’s got a lot of fash stank on it and pretending it’s different and sophisticated now, you wouldn’t understand is one of the older tricks in the fascist playbook

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 8 months ago

that wiki article leaves my eyes bleeding. i think i'll leave it precisely where it is.