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[–] sudo 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

... They said, on the ad free, FOSS free, free as in beer free, constantly updated and sustained platform.

Posted from my free, ad free, constantly updated, 'fairy tale' Android App.

[–] Burnt@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But actually not free as in free beer. Someone is paying to sustain these instances.

Edit: this is the 2nd time I've seen the phrase "free as in free beer" today and decided to look it up because I hadn't really taken notice of it before. I retract my statement and apologize. You used it perfectly and TIL, so thank you.

[–] SomeRandomWords@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvoted not because you're right, but because you realized you were wrong and will hopefully inspire others to look up the meanings behind phrases they read on the internet.

I also needed a refresher.

[–] Burnt@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

You can't grow if you can't admit to yourself that you're wrong some of the time.

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[–] Tanglebrook@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't get ahead of yourself about sustainability. Let's see how long free ad-free at scale lasts.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funded by an Open Source grant by NLNet

Just because you think something is free doesn't mean it is.

[–] sudo 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because something receives funding doesn't mean it isn't free. I understand development has costs. Hosting has costs. But nobody is extorting payment for hosting or developing lemmy. As an end user, the service is free to use. That's obviously what I'm referring to.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until the grant runs out and new funding needs to be found. And when socialised funding become untenable they will turn to the users or the corporations. Nothing is free.

[–] sudo 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking for donations is, again, different than extortion. There's a stark difference between a splash screen asking for funding to continue providing a free service and forcing ads and tracking in exchange for cash to operate on said FOSS platform.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Who said anything about extortion? We're talking about the service being free, just because you're not the one paying for it doesn't make it free.

[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~To be fair, the platform is not free, the instance admins pay for it. Also to be fair my instance currently only costs $7 a month, but that's more than nothing~~.

I hadn't heard free as in beer free before, apologies, I was just being a pedantic ass.

[–] sudo 6 points 1 year ago

Pedantic Ass is my middle name, so no worries!

I can't hold it against a developer for wanting to be compensated for their time. It's totally fair to want to get paid for your work. But there are already a number of growing apps that support the FOSS ideals of Lemmy so everything I've been seeing with Sync has just left a bad taste in my mouth.