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[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh joy, the revisionists are co-opting communist iconography for nationalist nostalgia

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I have plenty of critiques of the KPRF but I'm not really interested in baseless sectarianism. Feel free to elaborate.

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Baseless in what way? They're the self described continuation of Gorbachev's CPSU, which most MLs rightly criticize for a ton of reasons. They have an ossified aging leadership that refuses to bend to the more radical youth of the party and instead pushes milquetoast parliamentary "communism" to stagnant electoral results. The same social democratic dead end we've seen a hundred times already.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is what the 2034 KPRF presidential candidate will look like. These things take time

^___^

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

I'll be waiting, Mecha Lenin cyber-lenin

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

People here will dismiss all post-soviet communist parties as "nostalgic boomers" but then tell us to join CPUSA lmao. Why is it OK for us to have imperfect revisionist parties we need to whip into shape, but not for other nations to? Why is the pro-DNC revisionism more acceptable than the pro-Putin revisionism when the DNC is actually a more fascist, genocidal, neoliberal and imperialist body than Putin's administration?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

CPUSA is controlled by feds and should not be joined, but let's not pretend aesthetic communism doesn't hold its capital in Russia (if someone says China istg), though simultaneously it is also more populated by real communists than many other states and this guy specifically seems pretty decent.

We've got like one prominent poster who is CPUSA and the rules unfortunately dictate being nice to them (I forget their preferred pronouns) for some reason, but don't mistake that for anyone else liking CPUSA. Most people here seem to dislike PCUSA and it's still distinctly more credible than its forebear.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russian politics were literally cursed by a witch. If you talk about them you will wither away to a tiny locust by the age of 80 and die from being vored by a crow.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just seems like the "russia bad" veneer is very effective among westerners still, and everything Russian is automatically downgraded one level of "basedness" in their minds. An extremely disciplined, successful and principled communist party would be seen as mid. A mid revisionist party would be seen as evil. Whereas in the USA, the mid revisionist parties all get the benefit of the doubt and are not considered evil nazbols automatically.

Whereas in the USA, the mid revisionist parties all get the benefit of the doubt and are not considered evil nazbols automatically.

If you're still referring to the CPUSA, most people around here seem to take a pretty dim view of them, at best, so idk how much "benefit of the doubt" they're getting.

[–] TheGenderWitch@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Its clearly nationalist pandering for the future election, but i have a soft spot for the return of soviet iconography so im willing to be positive

although there has been a large trend in the past few years at co-opting Stalin and other such socialist peoples for the purpose of nationalism in Russia. but due to its communist nature it could swing either way.

russian politics is extremely cursed

[–] wrecker_vs_dracula@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yo this is the party of Lenin we’re talking about here. It’s also the most powerful communist party in today’s Europe, holding a double digit percentage of seats in the duma of Europe’s most populous country. I wish them well in the upcoming elections.

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's also the party of Khrushchev and Gorbachev, Zyuganov is not exactly Stalin.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’ll take the party of Khrushchev over literally any social democratic or liberal party ever

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If nothing else, Putin getting removed from power by a Communist, revisionist or otherwise, would be hella funny

West screaming "NOT LIKE THAT!"

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Arguably, the "Party of Lenin" is the RCWP, since that's the remnants of the hardliners that tried the coup in 91. They're a bit ultra but surprisingly youthful and progressive for a Party that came out of defeated military hardliners. Nevertheless (extremely) critical support to the KPRF.