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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which creator do you mean?

Yes.

If you play the "they never DIDN'T say it" game, you go into all sorts of nonsense areas, rather than just take a "we don't know that yet, maybe we will one day" position.

I'm playing the "They DID say it, but for one reason or another couldn't articulate it directly" game.

Another aspect of canonical artists' intent is the series bible. Gene Roddenberry (in)famously wrote a Star Trek bible very early on that laid out the ground rules for how things worked, what terminology to use, etc. Then during the TNG/DS9/VOY run, that bible was passed to and cared for by the Okudas. And they also added their creativity and understanding and fixes to it.

All of THAT is also canon, even the things we don't yet know about. Because that's the collaborative intention of the creators for the franchise. Things like audio commentary and interviews, and deleted scenes, and extra information written in novelizations, are the little tidbits we DO find out about that are suppose to be part of canon.

This is all to say, Earth - as best we know, using canonical on-screen and off-screen information - had been in a years-long ceasefire.

AND it wasn't even a tenuous ceasefire because the sight of what was mistaken for an ECON weapons platform, a nuclear ICBM leaving and returning back to Earth, and actual, factual ALIENS arriving wasn't enough to make anyone start shooting again, thankfully.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

You are now being blatantly dishonest by taking that question out of context. I specifically asked you which one should be correct when they disagree.

"Yes" is not an answer to that, which I am sure you very well know, which is why you cut the rest of the paragraph off to make that devoid of context.

I hope you are not resorting to trolling.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

If that's the only thing you want to address, I don't need to say any more than I have.

I enjoyed this debate, I truly believe and stand by what I've said (both the in-universe minutiae and the real-life understanding of what encompasses an artist's work), but I think you're taking it too seriously.