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[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Am I the only one who has been hearing the frustrations coming from democrats and Biden about Netanyahu? Reading these comments you'd think Biden has been best buddy's with Netanyahu and all is squeaky clean in their relationship, which is very, VERY much not the case. You'd also think that democratic leadership didn't just call out Netanyahu and suggest Israeli's vote him out over Gaza.

It's so weird that Biden is simultaneously Genocide Joe and Pro Hamas Biden.

I know talk is cheap and we are still sending military aid to Israel, but it all comes down to Biden facing daily trolley problems and balancing keeping friendly relationships with our one (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, taking the US seriously as a country that can stop a genocide by saying no to this (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, a reelection, and sending a message to the United States allies and adversaries of if we will or will not support who we say we will support.

The answer to stop sending arms to Israel is clear to us, but let's not pretend it's that easy. The rules for rulers are not that straightforward.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I don’t give Biden credit for resisting Netanyahu. During the Trump years we heard endlessly about Republicans who privately criticized Trump but publicly defended him slavishly. They get no credit, so why should Biden?

Biden’s policy was to publicly hug Netanyahu and hope that doing so would make him easy to pressure behind closed doors. It failed repeatedly. Biden is unwilling to pressure Netanyahu publicly and is instead taking the heat for him, with nothing in return. It’s pathetic and bringing down his campaign.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I was here when Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and then democrats used that as justification for why we should vote for Biden

Talk is not cheap, it is very much free of cost and carries no weight in the modern age of internet where evidence and first hand accounts are so abundant for the public to see.

The only critical reason Biden has an issue with Netanyahu is because:

  1. He's damaging Biden's election campaign
  2. He's not directly controllable or influenced like how the leaders of the surrounding shill arab countries are (ex: Sisi), which is just an extension of the first reason

As long as Israel has money to pay for weapons and the US has an interest in Israel (military complex and lots of technology), very little will change even with strained relations.

The best chance of anything changing is if the conflict became wider and suddenly started costing the USA resources, which is what the Houthis were trying to achieve by sabotaging the red sea shipping lanes.

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[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We almost have our four horsemen of the apocalypse:

Putin = war Trump = petulance (disease via COVID) Netanyahu = famine (at least it Gaza)

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

It's pestilence, but I think petulance actually suits Trump better

[–] juicy -4 points 8 months ago

The second half of your comment shows you know the answer to the first half. Yes, it is that easy.