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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Religions are the worst

Religious philosophy is fine. Not everything needs to be crammed into the framework of hard sciences. And the social aspects of religious organizing are no more good or bad than the individuals who take part in it.

You can just as easily find religiously motivated abolitionists as slavers. You can just as easily find religiously motivated homeless shelters as pedophile priests. The spiritualist language used to describe our social bonds is no less legitimate than some Evo-Devo prattle about brain chemicals, at least from the perspective of setting useful policy.

They’re abusive and a detriment to society and progress.

You can just as easily find abusive and detrimental habits in business economics and the hard sciences. Rationalization of a perverse or destructive behavior often follows the decision to embark on it. And you don't need religious beliefs to rationalize bad behaviors.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So just keep the philosophy and ignore any supernatural stories.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You'll never sell any comic books with that attitude

[–] force@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

apt comment for a being dubbed UnderpantsWeevil

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. How many wars were fought over atheism? None. How many over religions? Too many to count.

The average Catholic is a fine person, I'm sure, but the Catholic church is a horror show. How many people have suffered because of that organization? More than I could count. How many wars has it started? More than I'd like to know.

Want to try a different religion? Any religion? Any cult? Scientology, maybe? No? How about Jim Jones temple of what was it called again?

Individual spiritualism then? In on itself harmless, maybe, but it's still pure nonsense in the level of believing in unicorns and Santa Claus, and it still will end in either groups starting to form, that makes cults that either die out or become organised religion. And in its entire trajectory, it WILL cause suffering and abuse.

Yes, abuse is possible in any organization, but no organization will allow and tolerate abuse as religious organizations do. Give us your money, old grandpa with cancer, god will cure your cancer and return you your money double, I swear! Climate change isn't real, god would not allow it! All our thousands, millions of followers should just continue to pollute the hell out of this world because God will fix it, people! Hurricanes are caused by gay wickedness and women won't get pregnant from rape, god will stop that unless they like it.

I see no positive point in any religion or spirituality that could not be made without it.

So yes, fuck all religions, they're a detriment to the growth of humanity.

But what about the charities then? Charities don't require religion, you can do one perfectly fine without the other, and that ignores that charities only exist due to governments not fixing issues.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

How many wars were fought over atheism? None.

The entire Cold War was a protracted struggle between hard right Christian fascists and Communist Rationalists.

Look up the history of the John Birch Society. The entire movement is based on the Chinese Maoist treatment of Western Evangelicals.