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[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Do you think wyoming deserves to be a state? Every state gets the same representation in the Senate and I think that's fair. I don't think it's fair that the proportional side of the legislature isn't proportional anymore, though, and fixing that goes a very long way.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

States don't deserve equal representation. American citizens deserve equal representation, they are the ones who create value.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then what you’re really saying is abolish the concept of states and have a single federal state.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, states still would elect a number of representatives based on their population. Just no 2 senators per state.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why even have states? Good way to get rid of jerrymandering would be to get rid of imaginary borders. No states, no senate necessary.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Something something…. Redraw state lines every 10 years…

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because state legislatures should continue to exist. If less populated conservative states want to go down a rabbit hole of far right shit then let them. Just don't give them 2 senators per state to gridlock the states that continue to produce and provide for their population.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then there is no point in having states.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is what is referred to as a false dilemma fallacy. You can have states and state legislatures without the senate.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

First time I’m hearing about that fallacy, but it seems to imply deceptive intent which I have none. You can also have machine screws in your peanut butter sandwich but it doesn’t mean it makes sense.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

imply deceptive intent

Nope, it's simply an instance of an argument which erroneously limits what options are available.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think the states govts should continue to exist if they do not have a direct voice at the Federal level?

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because states would still get a voice at the Federal level with the House, not directly and disproportionately, but rather through their population who are the ones who create value.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

The house is representation of the people. The senate is the voice of the states. E.g. senate ratifies treaties.