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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What, the term "tankie"? A term coined within the Communist Party of Great Britain? The CPGP is alt-right, now?

Calling the term "alt-right" is just a quick way of telling me you're a tankie without telling me you're a tankie.

Oh. "wokescold" is another possibility but that's rather unlikely, while the right has appropriated "woke" I've never heard them use "wokescold" which is precisely used by people who know and understand the original meaning and simply want to call out certain problematic behaviours done in the name of, but not to the benefit of, wokeness.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Don't fucking bullshit me, we both know that I was referring to wokescold. Tankie is a horrible fucking word but it way predates the alt-right.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll just quote Zena+Poppy on the term. You may not like it, you might prefer clinical analytical language such as "puritanical progressive" or whatever, but from the context I used it in (making direct reference to social dynamics) it should be obvious that I used it in that sense.

And, no, tankie is not a "horrible fucking word". It is precise and succinct, also, tankies hate it.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No it's not a matter of how "nice" it sounds, it's about the fact that it was created by nazis for a nazi agenda.

I have zero patience for people who side with fascism. Sorry for having basic standards of human decency.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

it was created by nazis for a nazi agenda.

Source on that? I'm serious. I did a bit of googling and do see that the likes of Ben Shapiro have been using it, but that's definitely not where I have it from, and you'll also see plenty of left-wing uses of it.

I have zero patience for people who side with fascism.

I referred you to a quite precise definition of what I mean by the term. Can you explain to me how criticising the things encompassed by that definition would put me "on the side of fascism"? Fascists have come up with plenty of terms leftists use all the time, an obvious example would be the word "fascist". Allegiance to fascism, I'd say, cannot be inferred merely by use of some shared vocabulary, you have to go deeper than that.


In any case, and I hope you see the irony, going nuclear over the use of such a term, to drill down on syntax instead of semantics, is not unlikely to fit the wokescold pattern of behaviour. Depends a bit on how you do it but overall I'd say it's likely you'd hit at least some of the checkboxes Zena+Poppy are giving.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nah I'm done. You're irredeemable. Go be a fascist somewhere else.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Indeed I'll stay an anarchist no matter how much tankies and/or wokescolds whine. Have a good day.