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[–] emi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

I think among other issues would be the Gmail-ification and iMessage-ification of the fediverse. What I mean by that is open standards like email are dominated today by many people using Gmail accounts as it is popular, “free”, and comes with a ton of features. Then google started “walling off their garden” by adding features that only work between gmail accounts. Similarly, apple also took the open standard SMS and started adding on features only available between other iPhones.

What we might see is some of the coolest features the fediverse has ever seen, but it will come at the cost of most users ignoring or dealing less with "irrelevant" things not on meta ran instances.

Hope we can resist such a change, but that is what I am concerned about.

[–] shipp@mastodon.coffee 9 points 1 year ago (26 children)

@emi @Helix those standards don't really change though. We have the power over ActivityPub. Plus, if they do create cool features, why would we not also add them?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Plus, if they do create cool features, why would we not also add them?

Limited developer time.

[–] shipp@mastodon.coffee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@CanadaPlus this is referring to far in the future. In the long scale of things, developer time is not so limited. Fedi doesn't necessarily have a time limit after all, it's just going to go stronger over time. I don't see a stopping point.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah. Yes, in the asymptotic future limit everything can be implemented twice as long as there's social opportunity to do so. I wonder if that applies back to Gmail as well, will we see an open-source federated G-suite?

[–] shipp@mastodon.coffee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@CanadaPlus so are you expecting there to just be zero progress in the future? What do you think the fedi will look like in 10 years? And yes, there are foss tools to replicate all of gsuite. What a pessimistic view not even based in reality.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so are you expecting there to just be zero progress in the future?

... You're OP. You said you were referring to the far future. I was literally just agreeing with you.

And yes, there are foss tools to replicate all of gsuite.

Individually. Nothing that's all integrated, though. Like, I can use Proton for certain things, but only with other Proton users, and it's not seamless and feature-rich the way G-suite is (again, yet, maybe that will change).

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