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Spez did manage to understand something real about Reddit: that many people (not all but enough for the sake of his profits, he hoped) want to speak, rather than listen. Never mind about feeling heard or it being worthwhile by adding anything to the conversation, just simply, plainly, shouting your opinions into the void. Like Discord chat except based on topics rather than channels.
Those of us who HATE that about Reddit, and want a greater balance, enjoy it here much more.:-)
It’s a very interesting way of putting it. I’m gonna be chewing on that for a little while. I think you’re definitely hitting at something very important. I’m also loath to admit that I know I have brought some of my nasty Reddit habits here. For instance, sometimes I can get pretty combative in the comments. Not all the time, but sometimes I look back on the way I talk to people and think “jfc I am not actually that nasty of a person,” but something about being online certainly draws it out of me unfortunately, so clearly I’m capable of it.
I get you.
Even toddlers learn to speak first by babbling, and only later to converse and communicate with someone rather than talk at them. Some technological platforms have even evolved to facilitate that - like instead of "^This" and "I also choose this guy's wife", what about emoji reactions that do not extend the length that you have to scroll through to find the next substantive comment? Except that - this is the enshittification part - when ads can be placed in-between comments, or even someone hopes that they could be in the future, or more likely they want to purposefully obscure the signal so that "x number of comments appear on this post", rather than "x number of comments + y number of emoji reactions", that works against their profit model. (and yeah, there was "awards", but who even used those, plus they just were not... good, especially for this purpose)
About both that and being combative: fwiw, we all are that way - the good thing is that some of us are honest about it, which gives hope for change.:-) But we all will have bad days when we are cranky and especially when we feel "attacked" we feel the need to strike back, and the feelings at least are not wrong, just how we handle them may not be so productive.
So I get you - I am the same way, though fortunately less and less over time. Leaving Reddit truly has helped me leave a lot of that behind. Over there that is just the "expectation" that people encourage you to do, but the culture is better here.:-)
Appreciate the thoughts, truly. I know this response isn’t as through and thoughtful as yours, but know that I do appreciate it.
I think I was "wordy" - I appreciate your thoughtfulness and conciseness both.:-)