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Should We Have Shot Harambe? (youtu.be)
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[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Harambe was caring for the kid by dragging him like a rag doll around the moat while running and almost drowning him? Or was it the part where he slams the boys face into a concrete floor before dragging him across the enclosure by his leg again?

Gorillas are not known to care for human kids. They could care less. All it would have taken was for the kid to look Harambe in the eye, make a movement he didn’t like, or a sound he didn’t like, and with one love tap Harambe would have sent him to the moon.

The incident you’re probably referring to of “gorillas caring for human kids”, was one isolated event, and the gorilla only did that because she was the clan matriarch, and the zookeepers had trained her over multiple years to take her children to the rear service door if they were ever badly injured. She also had to fight off the males who tried to territorially defend against the unconscious kid.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Gorillas play with their own kids like that, drag them around and stuff, ofc it's rough to us but he saw him as a baby and didn't intend to hurt him, if he wanted to he would have done it in second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puFCuMac0Vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IHUiN-gXbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMhdXH4p0A

People screaming didn't help the situation.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn’t matter if they play with their kids like that. It would have killed a human child. Do you know how fragile a three year old is?

Also that is not true at all. Do you have a source for gorillas playing by dragging their children around and banging them against the ground while almost drowning them? They play wrestle yes, but that was not playing.

Also I know about all those incident you linked, I described one of them in my first reply. Notice how there are no others showing the opposite side of things. Mostly because human death and gore are banned on YouTube.

Also I know the people screaming didn’t help. But that doesn’t change the effect.

How do you think the situation would have played out? Do you really think you know more then the staff of two zoos? The Cincinnati zoo weren’t the ones who shot him, the Gorilla research center in Miami where Harambe was from advised the zoo to shot as the chances of the child not being critically injured or killed was low. Do you really think you know more about Gorillas then people who’ve spent their whole lives studying them?

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

https://zooatlanta.org/gorilla-dads/#:~:text=They%20also%20have%20been%20known,kids%20as%20a%20role%20model.

“Gorilla dads play with their children extremely gently”

Uh huh. Keep linking the same news article about Binti Jua. The zoo were lucky the kid wasn’t already dead after being dragged and around and drowned like that.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23um2h4YUwU

I linked the ones where they explained that it wasn't trying to kill the kid, if it wanted to, it would have ended him in seconds, the whole situation lasted like 10-15 minutes and he didn't kill him while people around kept screaming like chimps agitating him instead of shutting up and letting the staff to do the same thing they did when this happened in the past. Not to mention they have tranqs strong enough for elephants while they destroy cars and other vehicles and they couldn't do it for gorilla.

Gorillas never attack unless they feel threatened and a small scared kid could never cause it to feel threatened and it didn't, had everyone remained calm and didn't agitate him, this whole thing could have been avoided and resolved peacefully with zoo staff retrieving the kid.

Not to mention the absolute worst parents who let this happen in the first place.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

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[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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