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I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You’re a fool if you think that “nothing will change” under trump. You think you’ll have a better chance affecting change after we slide even further towards fascism? You think lgbt and poc aren’t going to be persecuted even more?

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hence why i’m not voting for trump 🤷‍♀️

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope for all our sakes that you don’t get what you’re asking for, but you’ll deserve it if we do.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You apparently believe that failing to act to prevent something bad is the same thing as committing the act yourself, since you said Biden “committed” genocide.

So if you fail to act to prevent a trump presidency, then you are actually supporting it.

Since you support trump, I say you deserve what comes to you if he wins.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So if you fail to act to prevent a trump presidency, then you are actually supporting it.

that's some trolley problem philosophizing >_<. No, i'm not a trump supporter. Nor am I a biden supporter. A no-vote is not the same as a vote for trump. A vote for trump IS a vote for trump. Maybe you should watch one or two more youtube videos about the trolley problem if that's where your mind is.

[–] glockenspiel@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tell me, how culpable were thr old SPD members that fled Germany immediately prior to the Enabling Act? The politicians who skipped town rather than vote to stop Hitler. I mean, they didn't explicitly vote for Hitler to become dictator. But they had the ability to prevent lr delay it and didn't.

At some point the rational and adult thing is to recognize that inaction is a defacto vote for the worst scenario you can imagine because you didn't attempt to stop it. If you see a car hit a little girl, and then flee, are you in the free and clear ethically and morally for just driving right by only to hear she later died because no one else tried to help?