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Is just such a shock from being in China. Just got harassed and essentially threatened for being a socialist. They searched my bags and commented on my China flag and my little red books and my copy of Blackshirts and Reds. Fucking police state. The security in China is strict, but they don’t give a fuck about your thoughts, whereas this guy was very aggressive about “consequences” for being a socialist.

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[–] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 7 months ago (21 children)

Yeah, I recently got back from a trip to Costa Rica and I could immediately feel the fascistic shift in atmosphere coming back. As soon as the plane touched down the immediate first thing I hear is, "LET'S CLAP AND CHEER FOR OUR TROOPS, EVERYONE ELSE WHO BUST THEIR ASS AT NORMAL JOBS, FUCK YOU YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT."

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 31 points 7 months ago (20 children)

Jesus Christ that’s bad. I got rerouted and came back through Vegas airport, and seeing people not even make it out of the airport before getting sucked into gambling really made the differences apparent.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (19 children)

Question: I know gambling, prostitution and pornography are all illegal in China - is this strictly enforced or do they kind of informally allow it to happen like most other countries do where such bans are in place?

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I believe pornography production and sale is illegal but consumption is not.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Production and distribution is legal if it is not done for profit. So you cannot pay actors, have a subscription service, sell your product directly, or use backend ways of avoid this restriction. This lets regular people make porn and not risk any penalty, but prevents companies from exploiting people or creating a problem industry.

[–] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Which is logical, some people enjoy displaying their naked bodies and/or sexual acts. Our problem is that money inherently makes it exploitative.

What consenting adults do with their own bodies and how they choose to share that with other consenting adults is none of any other person’s business.

[–] juchenecromancer@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Production and distribution is legal if it is not done for profit.

Any sources on that? Everything I've ever seen on the subject seems to suggest otherwise. It'd certainly be ideal if society moved to how you describe- maybe in a decade or more I could see that happening.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Section 9 of the legal code says it word for word.

Whoever, for the purpose of profit, produces, duplicates, publishes, sells or disseminates pornographic materials shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years, criminal detention or public surveillance and shall also be fined.

https://www.cecc.gov/resources/legal-provisions/criminal-law-of-the-peoples-republic-of-china#2%20Chapter%20VI.9

Further if you look at how the authorities treat porn distribution in particular, they will immediately arrest anyone associated with “paid porn” even if that site operated perfectly fine for years before, with the only thing changing being that they now had a subscription service, or running ads, or another form of “profit creation”. Such as the case with Juneday, a site that operated for years on China’s clear net, but the second they started charging for the service and running ads, everyone associated was arrested.

http://news.sohu.com/20061220/n247161264.shtml

Further, peer to peer torrenting of porn is essentially never enforced, and sharing porn on Chinese networks is only enforced if users seed or leech more then 40 files simultaneously.

For example, China’s daily BitTorrent traffic.

https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/CN/daily

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago

Sounds like a sensible policy. A ban on consumption couldn't be enforced anyway.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 7 months ago

i agree, i can't stand the "consooming" of everything

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