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[–] Libertus@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Right... Let's eliminate every instance of nudity because religious zealots were offended by it in the past, and now leftist zealots are offended. Let's remove the statue of David and all other art depicting the naked human body. Later, let's remove anything from public view that could potentially offend anyone.

[–] dr_robot@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It does not seem like you heard the arguments presented in the article. It isn't about being offended by any left or right wing politics, but because women engineers and scientists were uncomfortable about it for a variety of reasons. In a field which struggles to attract and keep female talent, this is a pretty big thing. The model herself spoke out and asked to be "retired from tech".

[–] Libertus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, I think the only somewhat valid argument is that Lena herself expressed the wish not to use her photo. The real issue is that 'scientists were uncomfortable.' Because if someone feels uncomfortable with the human body, it raises questions about their mental condition. Especially in this particular case, the picture is and has always been cropped, showing no nudity. The original source, 'Playboy,' has nothing to do with anything, and even if it did, this is still a very tasteful piece of art. Even if there was a man in this picture, I would say the same. This is just a picture showing a pleasing composition of the surroundings and a human female specimen. So, the question that remains is: Why would anybody feel uneasy seeing a woman in a hat? Those for whom this is a problem must imagine things (that make them uncomfortable) in their heads that are not in the picture. The problem is that our culture, including advertisements, fashion, and social media, distorts the perception of human bodies and how people, especially young ones, perceive their bodies. At the same time, young people often aren't properly socialized regarding their sexuality and aren't taught that the body is not subject to morality, and there are no 'good' and 'bad' body parts. They shouldn't be reinforced in their erroneous thinking by canceling and censoring parts of reality. I'm not saying that those people are the issue. I'm saying that their behavior is a symptom of the real problem with the society that needs to be addressed.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

If we read articles, we'd have so little left to argue about...

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have a friend who is a sex freelance journalist writing for everyone from the NYT to Playboy and she's been outspoken recently around a neo-puritan movement by younger generations.

People aren't having as much sex, have a lot more hangups about sex, are uncomfortable with sex depicted in media, etc.

This image didn't even contain nudity - it's a crop of the original that's in question.

There are broader social impacts for seemingly innocuous efforts like these, and I don't know it's all that healthy for us to be constantly self-thought policing when it comes to sex. Those attitudes seem to be moving beyond the immediate focus and into general attitudes and behaviors around sexual hangups.

We're seeing "purity culture"-like mentality infecting people who weren't even raised in oppressive religious contexts.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Oh I'd be interested in reading her work, there is absolutely some weird puritan thing in a section of those in their twenties but also an equal group that are kinda sexual obsessive.

[–] Libertus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I can see the same thing, and I couldn't agree more. Do you happen to have an article of hers to share?