this post was submitted on 31 Mar 2024
78 points (93.3% liked)

Privacy

31866 readers
242 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Cloud storage has become ubiquitous in modern society. The most widely-used example, I think, is the one that comes prebundled with our p...

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] frogmint@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://nextcloud.com/encryption/

End-to-end Encryption client-side is available from Nextcloud desktop client 3.0 and newer as a folder-level option to keep extremely sensitive data fully secure even in case of a full server breach. The server facilitates key exchange for syncing between devices and sharing but has Zero Knowledge, that is, never has access to any of the data or keys in unencrypted form.

It's not a big deal if you self-host at home either. You can use SSL for the traffic and LUKS for the storage.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Again, i dont recommend nextcloud because it doesn't encrypt everything. Same for other cloud providers. I wouldn't use it unless everything is encrypted client-side and it cannot be turned off.

It is a big deal if you self host. If you server is owned, your data is compromised, because the server can read your data.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if your server is taken over, there's a good chance your other devices have been compromised first/as well, in which case you're already in trouble.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No way. Servers are easier to compromise because they're online all the time and by definition exposed to requests from the public internet

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can have a server without a public IP; that's totally doable. An internal server that's only accessible from LAN or a VPN is still a server.

Also, the majority of compromises happen because of user error (e.g., someone opens/runs the wrong thing) or an unpatched machine, not because of an exploit in server software/because the machine is always on. This is especially true in the business world where it's often a combination of human error and the network not being segmented/ACLs not being set properly/etc (lots of cases of human error).

It's also not that unusual for someone to keep their e.g., desktop always on or their laptop/mobile device in a low power state where it still has network activity despite being "off."

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes. In practice, servers are easier to own than computers