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Without him the tortures wouldn't have happened or at least be minimised.
So he is directly responsible for the extra torture he himself knowingly facilitated.
Without the people willing to torture and murder the animals it wouldn't have happened.
Making doing a bad thing easier makes the bad thing happen more. This is a really simple concept.
Right, but it needs people to do it in the first place.
No one is saying that's not true. You are not making a point there. Connecting the people willing to do it to the people willing to view it increases demand and increases the occurrence.
You don't seem to be making a very different point here. Yes, it increases demand, but, as I said, those committing the violence are the ones who should be held more to account in my opinion, which is what start this conversation chain.
The start of the conversation seems to be someone saying that what he did was fucked up and he deserves more than 5 years for it. Then you wanted to make a distinction about his role in the torture for entertainment industry. If your point was that the people committing the torture directly should receive longer sentences than him then you did just about the worst job possible to convey that.
I made it pretty clear yesterday.
No you didn't. That doesn't make your supposed point that the people that did the torture directly deserve more time in jail than him. You took a weird stand at a weird time and communicated it very poorly the whole way through.
Yes it does. "A weird time"? I don't choose to post at specific times of the day. Never mind then.
No it doesn't. It says nothing about relative jail time. The weird time is the point of the conversation you joined in at.
Of course it doesn't, I wasn't addressing that specifically, but you can understand that is part and parcel of what a 'worse' crime should get.
What is weird about joining a conversation at the start?
Then what exactly were you addressing? You haven't made the intent of your initial comment clear at all. SeaJ said that what the guy did was fucked up and deserves more jail time. What does that have to do with your comment? He didn't say anything about the sentencing for the others.