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this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2023
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Ok but why
Presumably because currently, activitypub doesn't have a module for secure message exchange that can't be snooped on by a server admin.
Not but there are 7369543 other "modules" you can already use.
Because fedi is going to take away all Meta/Facebook's proprietary toys, WhatsApp included.
Not likely
Why the hell not?!?
Because fragmentation of chat apps is bad
If there’s n of something and n+1 breaks it, then it was broken to begin with.
I find it interesting that people who don’t really think about these things much often have a default sentiment that everyone on a single platform is better.
It’s especially true of people who just exploit platforms for attention. It breaks the rules they have built up in their heads about how to be important and have status.
Just kinda thinking out loud here.
No one thinks that. We just think having everyone on a different platform is bad.
Can you clarify the nuance you are pointing out? I really have heard multiple people assume they will be forced to be on every platform if multiple platforms become active/popular. They express they think a single platform is preferable.
I explained this in another comment. I don't want to have to keep 20 chat apps on my phone just to talk to my friends and family. I don't want another one. Pretty simple.
Oh, I see. I got way off track and was thinking about Social Media not messengers. Apologies.
What?
Competition is good, especially with regards to privacy and cyber security. Customers benefit when companies don't have a captured market. A lack of competition only leads to monopolies and stagnation.
If no one offers a secure product, then customers have no choice but to either not use anything or put up with it. Competition means that at any time a newcomer can offer a better product (that is hopefully open source).
Edit to add: Ideally you could message people on different apps with the same account. But I'll take fragmentation over a monopoly.
Hard disagree. People actually being able to use apps is good. The smallest amount of privacy and security is a thousand times better than WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger or whatever other Meta garbage people are using.
Wickr, Threema, Telegram, blah blah blah there's too many chat apps already.
You are already on another social media. Just not a centralized one.
...huh? Who is talking about social media?
You are on the wrong platform then
What are you talking about
Theres reasons to pm stuff. Some used it on reddit for stuff like exchanging adresses for trading tea, sweets, etc.
There are already hundreds of ways to PM stuff. Why do we need another?
I don't want to give strangers my personal cell, discord, twittter, whatever handle here publicly. If there is a need to exchange secret informatiom, how will you take this convo elsewhere?
How is it that your Matrix handle is "personal" but your Sup. handle is not?
I don't have matrix?
Anyway: Platform specific handle being "public" is not a problem. What is a problem (to me) is the association with other platforms I am on. No one besides those that actually should know it (hence PM), need to know it.
Do I reuse my username on many platforms? Sure do.
Do I need to tell you? Nope brother!
Also: Why should I take my conversation from here to exchange confidential information than just letting it stay here?
My point, exactly.
I've already answered that.