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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Folks acting like Python is the only language without semicolons. 😏

I got tripped up so many time in the last 3 weeks using PHP after years in ML family languages. I am already newlining & it’d be poor style to put more than one statement on a line so what is the point of these semicolons?

[–] palordrolap@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In some languages
a newline does not
necessarily indicate
the end of a statement.

In others, sometimes it could, but would leave things ambiguous
as to whether the statement was ended or not.

And so, punctuation is necessary.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

But newlines + indentation are supported by a lot of languages & when it is, it’s easier to read since the prevailing convention is already to newline, then in indent. When you follow the usual coding styles or autoformatted & removed the semicolons, you’ve gained nothing for readability & added noise. I much prefer the languages that take this convention & bake it in so you don’t have to have that that visual noise—and in these languages, I never felt the parsing rules were ambiguous.

[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

it’d be poor style to put more than one statement on a line

Unlike Python, most languages do not endorse a specific concept of style. You're free to dabble in all the bad style choices you like, on the off chance that once in a blue moon they prove to be situationally useful.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why haven't custom parsers become more of a thing? All the compiler or interpreter really needs is a valid parse tree. You could even have some kind of special command or directive to switch styles, if a section would be really ugly otherwise.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

With indentation-based languages the bad coding style we are talking about is putting multiple statements on a line or unindenting a block …& never has that been something I wanted to do. I would rather this aspect be enforced at the language for readability where there is still room in all other aspects to try out other styles.