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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think you underestimate younger voters who understandably want to take a principled stand against voting for the lesser of two evils, and haven't yet had the experience of realizing too late that this principled stand accomplished nothing but empowering the greater of two evils.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This older voter is calling bullshit. If there has ever been a bill or law that targets specific groups of people to subjugate, it has Biden's fingerprints in it. In most cases he wrote and sponcered the bill. Patriot Act, Crime Bill, Bankruptcy bill prohibiting student debt, DOMA, DADT, welfare reform, etc. The list is endless. He has 50 years of Congressional to show he does not represent us in government.

Condoning genocide is not the lesser evil

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Condoning genocide is not the lesser evil

It is compared to advocating it

And that's where I find your argument unconvincing. If Trump and Biden really are the same, then there's no point in voting for either. But they're clearly not the same. Above meme aside, another example is that while Trump demanded that Mike Pence refuse to certify Biden's election in 2020, Biden personally certified Trump's in 2016. If you care about the right of voters to pick a president, that's a huge difference right there.

With a history as long as Biden's of course he's done things we disagree with. Pretty much all the things you listed are things he's shifted against since. The fact that you need to go to things Biden doesn't even currently support for your best examples speaks volumes. Would Biden's next Supreme Court appointee overturn gay marriage and reinstate DOMA? Because Trump's probably would. If you're against student debt, you gotta be joking - Biden's the only president who's ever even attempted mass debt relief. Look at what he's done as president in the present, not as senator a long time ago.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

You would think that, but then there are still the exact same "corrupt DNC" trolls on here as 8 years ago. These are very obviously trolls, but they are keeping this narrative around because it works and gets engagement. I'm curious how long it is supposed to take before the political maturity kicks in.