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'There will be a civil war': Trump fans rage after Georgia judge orders trial to proceed
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No there won't.
Alternate headline: local inbreds big mad
I agree, their numbers, organization, and ammo reserves are not to be dismissed or underestimated.
I believe all of those except organization...
They see (largely) in terms of black and white with zero shades of gray. That makes for way less infighting than the Dems. It's their superpower.
It's how they're beating the left so handily.
It has little to do with that, the problem is structural. They're beating the left because the political system is structured in a way that gives overwhelming advantage to the establishment with minority votes.
Their 35% wacko views are treated as equal to the 65% both by the political system and by the media - see manufacturing consent.
Meanwhile the left wing candidates or proposals are always both too left and not left enough - the pincer maneuver.
Take any issue and see how the left view is scrutinized in the mainstream compared to the right: Biden cancelling student debt? Both too left and not left enough. Obamacare? Same. Guns? Same. Pick your poison.
It's because the very wealthy would rather risk anarchy and societal collapse by promoting the causes of violent thugs rather than be taxed and contribute to the well-being of the people who maintain the civilization they rely on.
Because the upside is immense and the downside is insignificant. The actual risk to them is tiny. They have a lot to gain (0 tax, government contracts, favourable judges, pliable lawmakers), and worst case their man doesn't get the office, they're roughly where they are now.
The potential collapse of society is someone else's problem - if they thought on how their actions affect society or the planet they wouldn't have the money they have.
What do you think the solution to that kind of situation is then?
I'm not being facetious, I'm actually interested in your thoughts.
As an individual and as a group.
Join A Union - if you are on a salary of any level, join a union. Unions are a force for equalisation of power, a proper seat at the negotiating table and a "third space" of discussion of grievances, finding common ground, resolving worries and deciding on action.
Involvement in local politics, local becomes state, becomes national.
Until, public holiday, mandatory, and ranked choice voting is introduced (if ever), after you advocated for as much change as possible, you voted for the best candidate in the primaries, vote for the candidate that has a chance of winning. Not voting or protest voting does worse than fuck all.
Do not give up on set backs. Get involved. Demand better.
Actually, I'm kinda doing all of that. One exception: I'm looking into how to CREATE a union. It's a little daunting but I persist.
Excellent advice in general, friend.
Hmmm I believe that but we all do it.. the first pass at a problem or a situation tends to look black or white to most people...
What happens is that most people with a modicum of common sense, education or not blinded by feelings know that the analysis is not complete then. We need to go deeper and discover / resolve the nuance... These people won't.
However, real life is nuanced. Most situations are a lot more complicated than black and white. So when these people attempt to actually do anything, to solve any problem, to build anything, they'll just hit brick wall after brick wall and then the infighting will commence
Perfect example, that Canadian idiot that sold the farm and moved to Russia because fucking Russia did have Christian values and he was tired of gay chickens in his farm or something. That's the level of analysis he put to the task, 4 months of hell later Russia took all his money and is now getting kicked out because you cannot immigrante without knowing the Russian language
I hope you're right. My fear is that there are enough that are able to wag the dog and take advantage that are deviously coordinated and able to turn this country into something that we don't recognize in short order.
The worst part is that it's not some sort of crazy conspiracy theory. There are actual groups that are working to change the entire political landscape in this country and to something draconian and dark.
This. I've already seen more people on the left threatening each other over what they're going to do if Trump gets in office, rather than lashing out at the right.
If Trump decides to incite an actual war rather than just another insurrection mob at the Capitol, there will probably be a war. Rather than joining together and fighting it off, half the left will probably try to kill the other half out of spite.
This is my fear. This is how they win.
And I bet a not-insignificant portion do the oppression olympics game and lecture people who, in their haughty opinion, are not sufficiently intersectional or whatever, not seeming to understand the ones most likely to engage in the oppression olympics (i.e., themselves) are the ones most at-risk from the threat of the right wing.
Yes, they should be estimated, on the premise that they're selfish assholes who won't share and don't realize they can only reasonably fire one gun at a time and the hand guns will be worthless.