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[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (34 children)

Socialist Party of America, Socialist Alternative, The Communist Party of the USA, and plenty others have been trying to run left of the Democratic Party for a century, it won't work in a FPTP voting system, converting the Democrats into a Socialist party would literally be easier.

If you want a left wing party other than the Dems, you're gonna have to change FPTP first.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Or or, and hear me out here. We could do what has happened many different times throughout history. And take over/replace the structure of a party. The Democrats already ignore state and local elections across several red states. What if we lefties/socialist/etc instead of trying to prop up separate parties and separate candidates that always fail. Fielded our own candidates who more closely match our own ideals. And run them as Democrats in these areas. Focusing on funding them ourselves as well as whatever money the DNC apparatus might provide. We might actually start winning. And if we start winning we might actually be able to replace those in the DNC. And if we replace those in the DNC. Things might actually get better.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (12 children)

This is what the DSA has been trying to do and succeeding in for 30 years with candidates like AOC

[–] juicy -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait-5-moths-before-calling-a-genocide-a-genocide AOC?

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What do you think that purity testing gets you?

[–] juicy 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everyone has purity tests, everyone has red lines. None are more reasonable than genocide.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She said it was a humanitarian catastrophe from day one of the invasion and called for an immediate ceasefire soon after. Just because she didn't use the exact word you want, a hugely legally binding and implicating one too mind you, you're willing to write her off?

You do realize that if that is your standard then literally no member of congress or in the executive is good enough for you, right?

Not to mention that it'd be hugely irresponsible for any government official to make a comment like that before the ICC ruling is actually finished.

[–] juicy 0 points 7 months ago

You think it's irresponsible to call this a genocide before the ICC comes to a verdict in 20 years?

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