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[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (34 children)

Socialist Party of America, Socialist Alternative, The Communist Party of the USA, and plenty others have been trying to run left of the Democratic Party for a century, it won't work in a FPTP voting system, converting the Democrats into a Socialist party would literally be easier.

If you want a left wing party other than the Dems, you're gonna have to change FPTP first.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Nope, party flips have happened before and they will happen again. You sound extremely condescending for someone who doesn’t know nearly as much they think they do.

The Democratic Party is run by deeply monied interests. You well never succeed in “converting” it to socialism. and no, getting a handful of candidates like AOC elected over the course of a few decades doesn’t show that you can. It actually proves the opposite point.

Today’s Democratic Party is more conservative than ever so all of you claiming we can convert are either incredibly naive, or deliberately trying to sabotage leftist movements.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The Democratic Party is run by deeply monied interests.

You ever seen proof for this or did you just hear it and it sounded right?

Today’s Democratic Party is more conservative than ever so all of you claiming we can convert are either incredibly naive, or deliberately trying to sabotage leftist movements.

Lmfao the Democratic Party used to be the part of Slavery and Segregation, and then what do you know, one of those party flips you literally mentioned happened and they became the ones spearheading the fight for civil rights in Congress. I see no reason the same can't happen around capitalism.

[–] juicy -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And now they are the party of genocide. Hey! Maybe you're right!

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sure you can say that, but half the party supports a ceasefire, the entire republican party would glass gaza from orbit given a chance.

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