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[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

So you're saying that Israel does not have the ability to shop around? And you're also very confident that their capital is limited. Can you substantiate this?

Also, lots of claims being made here as matter of fact:

  1. German sales are exclusively contingent on US sales.
  2. Israeli purchasing power contingent on aid.

I could go on. Can we do one point at a time instead of the gish gallop?

Also, where are your sources?

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SOURCES: WHERE ARE THEY???

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying that Israel does not have the ability to shop around

No, I'm saying that there's a limited number of countries willing to knowingly supply weapons to be used to commit genocide and that there's none willing or even ABLE to match the current supply from the US.

And you're also very confident that their capital is limited.

well yeah, massacring a people is EXTREMELY expensive when you don't have a sugardaddy country like the US to pay for it.

Can you substantiate this?

You mean disprove YOUR assertion, based on no data you've shared, that Israel has more than enough weapons and cash to keep the genocide going in perpetuity without US assistance.

No, I can not, since I am not privy to the details of your imagination. I'm just going by what is by far the most likely.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've provided sources:

https://lemmy.world/comment/9198378

I don't know if you're doing this intentionally, but you're sliding in a lot of weasely language:

In perpetuity

So, to circle back to the initial claim: stopping US sales of weapons wouldn't change much, would it? Realistically speaking. The cash aid has liminted effect, since they have enough capital anyway. Germany has nothing to do with it, since they can still shop around (despite your imaginary 'limited list of countries that will supply weapons"). They've already purchased enough arsenal to turn the middle east into glass (see link above).

So what exactly are we arguing at this point? Are you just being a contrarian for the sake of it?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You've only demonstrated that they have a lot of NUCLEAR weapons stockpiled. Aka the one kind of weapon they CAN'T use because then they wouldn't be able to use the newly stolen land for settlements and upscale oceanfront real estate projects, might not even be able to extract the offshore gas they're also eager to steal. So nukes are useless.

As for your claims that breaking international rules and norms not decreasing the number of countries that will do business with you, allow me to remind you of Apartheid South Africa and present day Russia.

Not having the billions worth of weapons and cash from the US OR the support of other countries strongarmed into it by the US would make it MUCH harder for Israel to carry on their genocide, if not downright impossible.

So what exactly are we arguing at this point? Are you just being a contrarian for the sake of it?

Obviously not, but since you've now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're impervious to reason when it comes to your pet theory of an omnipotent Israel, I'm gonna drop it now. Have a nice day.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

There are three links in that post. Only one deals with nuclear weapons. If you can't be bothered to read what others post, then you're just here for grandstanding and to be a contrarian. The third link specifically deals with this. Israel can wipe out Gaza already ten times over. There is no doubt they can't.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Here is an example of talking with sources.

https://lemmy.world/comment/9198378