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[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The ends justify the means?

Hypotheticaly then: if I had a 100% guarantee that murdering all babies would get them into heaven, but you'd go to hell, is it morally right to murder all babies? The ends justify the means, do they not? We need to get babies to heaven! So murder them all!

No, it's absolutely still monstrous. Because utilitarianism is stupid.

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Stanislaw Lem had a short story about something like this. Basically a missionary came to a planet populated by cute innocent fur balls. He taught them the Bible, so they tortured him to death to make him a martyr and guarantee that he gets to haven, knowingly condemning themselves to hell out of compassion for the priest.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

The flipside is: why tf is Judas considered a bad guy? Without him, no one could have ever gone to heaven

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, no. That's not okay. But, if we did do that, then it's for the best.

[–] SolarMech@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you do it it's not ok and you should feel guilty all of your life. But if we did it it's totally ok.

Actually you should still feel guilty all of your life because one of your ancestors sinned or something. And I've made you a sinner by definition.

-- God, priests and other representatives of God, probably.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Also, can we have more gold?

  • God and priests, definitely.