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[–] pop@lemmy.ml 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"We already benefited from slaves so now slavery is bad, We dictate what civilized world means"

and

"We polluted the whole world for our industrial revolution, so now pollution is bad, we protec environment"

Outsources everything to a country without any labor rights or environmental protection

feels good man

also

"We enabled our big tech to create a global surveillance system and international monopolies"

Tiktok bad because it reports to CCP

Pointing out any of the hypocrisy means you're a tankie (i'm yet to know what it actually means).

As far as I'm concerened, one does bad things without any filter, one uses the media, tech and its hegemony to project a positive image while severely downplaying and ignoring their atrocities.

Sooner or later, China is also going to learn to do the same with their big tech and media companies.

[–] Dempf@lemmy.zip 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What you said is all true. And most of the tankies I've come across seem to hold their beliefs mostly due to learning about and needing to confront the hypocrisy that you've outlined.

But in my opinion, they come to some strange conclusions. For example, it seems to me that many hold Russia and especially China up as some kind of shining beacon of hope, and miss that they are just as bad as the US, if not worse, just in different ways.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

I think it's out of the false dichotomy of The West vs China and Russia. While in fact there is no dichotomy, every large political actor will only try to bend everyone else, not benefit humanity.

It's not a capture the flag, it's more of a death match, but many think they are too big to fail, have too much upper hand, or can outsmart others. Too bad the people are the losing side

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

If it helps, probably not

A tankie is a kind of communist that is disliked by other communists. So you know if someone calls you a tankie, that person is a leftie and they agree you're a leftie too, but the bad ones.

It comes from the invasion of socialist Hungary (?? Not really sure here) by Soviet tanks. There were people for and against it. The ones in Hungary defending Soviet point of view, that is, supporting tanks imposing social order, were called tankies.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 6 months ago

what do you mean sooner or later? China's spreading their influence now, their hegemony has been growing to rival the West through their investments in Africa and South America. They started decades ago, and really caught up during the Trump presidency.