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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Those residential units will be worthless too if all the offices close. Why live in the big city and pay huge rents if you work remote? Just move to a cheap area and buy a nice house.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Those huge rents exist because demand exceeds supply (amongst other reasons). People want to live in walkable neighborhoods and not suburbs where you have to drive everywhere to survive.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You can have walkable neighbourhoods without living downtown in a big city. Small villages are the original way to have walkable lifestyles. It’s how everyone lived centuries ago. There’s still plenty of those around, they just get overlooked.

Suburbs exist mainly for the purpose of commuting into the city for work. If people stopped doing that then they could leave the suburbs.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people do, but more people should think this way than do think this way

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's more like it's often not a consideration, because the option doesn't really exist. And when it does, you pay an obscene markup.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bingo, it's not that there's a lack of people that want to live downtown, it's that there's not enough space to accommodate everyone so it's not financially realistic to most people who want to.

The suburbs thing usually becomes something people want while they have kids at home.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it’s that there’s not enough space to accommodate everyone so it’s not financially realistic to most people who want to.

There's plenty of space, it's used incredibly poorly due to free parking, zoning regulations, and running highways through cities. The financial component is simply there aren't enough of these spaces and they aren't dense enough (and they could stand to include a lot more public and social housing, but people oppose it because they don't want "those" people in their neighborhoods).

That's not to say that reforming suburbs to make them more livable wouldn't be a part of the solution too.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah so exactly what I'm saying, there's not enough space (in which people can live was implied) available to meet the demand at the moment. There could be, there isn't.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sadly a lot of rural areas have little to no Internet connectivity in the US because ISPs have been taking money meant for rural Internet and pocketing the money. Additionally, the internet in smaller towns can be spotty. It's part of the reason why starlink was so hyped up when it was first announced. It's also part of the reason why people who are allowed to work from home sometimes find it difficult to find cheaper places to live (another one being rural bigotry, though if you're cis, straight, white and capable of pretending to be Christian, that shouldn't be much of an issue). The cheaper the area, the worse the internet usually is.

yeah. not always the case but yeah, generally the sticks have shit internet.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Many people want to live downtown to be close to the action and with people living there 24/7 it would bring actual life to the area and would allow businesses to thrive instead of having restaurants and stores that close mid afternoon.

They're bringing a few people back for 8h/day two days a week when they could bring a lot of people back for 24h/day seven days a week. What's more logical from a business perspective?