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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.

Not one bit.

Edit: to explain further would contain massive spoilers.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I know what they are.

Trick is it directly counteracts the games. In the year the show happens is the same year new vegas happens. This is after the brotherhood was reduced to cowering in a hidden bunker with zero force projection capability.

The show is great, but its Bethesda fallout, not Fallout.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No it isn’t. The show is happening in 2296, 11 years after FO4 (2285). FNV takes place in 2281.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That makes it worse.

The western Brotherhood of Steel, at the start of new Vegas, is reduced to One Chapter holed up in One tiny bunker with no vertibirds, no supplies, no manufacturing. They have to send lone scavengers out in the cover of night just to steal enough food to survive.

The battle of Helios One ended the brotherhood as a major player in any capacity. They threw everything they had at the NCR and lost badly.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And you can’t think of them building back up (even one major chapter), with the help of other Brotherhood chapters, in the fifteen years afterwards?

That’s a failure of your imagination, buddy, not a shortcoming of the show.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The only other chapters are on the east coast, have no desire or ability to contact each other. Hell, the west coast group don't even know the east coast chapters survived, let alone thrived because they seized project purity. And while they made the trek before, the middle of the US after that became Caesar's Legion, 15 years after his fall it would be an impassable wasteland.

The east coast chapters were strong enough in DC to send out squads to Boston, but never anything more than a recon. Its even Bethesda lore in fallout 4 that they dont have the resources to move the Prydwin back to DC.

The NCR can make prewar tanks, power armor and vertibirds; they have a GECK.

Edit: to be clear: the only ending the western brotherhood of steel has to survive is to be absorbed into the NCR.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You have no idea what happened in the 15 years between FNV and the show, or the 11 since FO4.

All I’m hearing is that you couldn’t have imagined it, therefore everyone else is wrong— and that just makes you look like you have a very limited imagination, not that everyone else is wrong for coming up with a better story that you could have.

You’re very welcome not to like it, but you still haven’t laid out any solid evidence for your claims other than speculation.