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[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

a fall guy to the producers who brought a bunch of non union workers on set during a strike. obviously she fucked up, but this isn't just on her, she was at work.

[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This is a dumb take. Her only job was to make sure the weapons are safe, and she had live ammo on set. The producers may share some of the blame with her, but she's no fall guy.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

She was also supposedly complaining about the judge and jury on her recorded phone calls. The judge sounded incandescent with rage while sentencing her to the maximum of 18 months. In another jurisdiction manslaughter could land you many years in prison.

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

She additionally lacked remorse. She was feeling sorry for herself and how this conviction would adversely affect her own modeling career.

I think 18 months was very little all things considered.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

And she's also the child of an armorer so it's not like this was her first rodeo.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While what you said is factual, this also was the very specific reason she was brought to the set: the safe and professional handling of firearms and firearm analogous props. Her entire job was to ensure no one got shot. 18 months for manslaughter is a slap on the wrist.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's fine. They need to prosecute the producers as well.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Oh absolutely, this was a complete failure from top to bottom on responsibilities and best practices. The level of incompetence on display here is at a level where I would hesitate to let this team manage a bake sale, let alone run around with dead weapons to try and make their little picture seem cool.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so what's the role of an armorer on set?

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are a subsection of Props which covers everything an actor holds or interacts with during a scene (minus things like furniture) and some things worn during a scene like jewelry (some overlap with costume dept there so not exclusively everything is props)

Armorer specifically deals with the sourcing and safe handling of weapons and armor. Depending on where you are all Props people need to be licenced to handle weapons wherever licencing programs exist so all props people can do the most basic armorer tasks but generally speaking once you stop dealing with rubber toy look-alikes and airsoft weapons most shows will upgrade to an armorer who has specialized knowledge to handle loading, proper storage and instruction on proper handling and guidance.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I don't know much about filmmaking.

I did some googling and it seems like she should've been considered too inexperienced for the job, from what I read, westerns are particularly difficult due to the amount of guns on set and should've been supported by a crew of multiple armorers?

She's also simultaneously facing charges of concealing firearms to get them past a bouncer then showing off that she snuck a gun in on social media, so idk how much sympathy I have for her...

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh... Have no sympathy. This production absolutely should have had more armourers than it did which is one of many reasons why every slimeball Producer deserves to be fined on the thing. She herself was so far off best practice she might as well have been on the moon so the liability pie has a slice for everyone involved.

I have worked shows like this and there's a certain attitude Production takes where they tend to actively pick and reward people they know will cut corners because doing things slapdash is cheaper and saves them money long term. I have my own tales of Production sleeze that could have gone fantastically wrong and ended up with people dead but didn't because of basically just luck.

[–] Marcbmann@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

So she didn't bring live rounds on set and put those live rounds in a prop gun intended for actors in a movie?