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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Commune-ism sounds like a lovely idea on a small scale, you gotta solve a lot of political problems to make it work on anything bigger. Social democracies like the scandinavians seem to be the best way we currently know to run a humanitarian society.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are they though? I just feel like we aren't solving the issues we ought to.

First, nobody gets hungry ever again.

Then, everybody gets roof over their head.

After that, we can start discussing the next steps.

And yes, we need to do this globally, with nobody left behind.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s neither exclusive to communism nor has it been achieved in most purportedly communist states (I hear Vietnam’s actually been having a good run of things but I can’t speak to specifics).

Socialism != communism.

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely not happening now under any social democracy.

Socialism is supposed to be a transformative period, leading to communism. I have no idea why people write the !=.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because exclusively that’s the communist viewpoint. There are different socialist ideologies than communism. It’s a rectangle vs square situation.

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But everyone knows that. Nobody even remotely suggested anything close to it.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“Socialism will transition to communism” is just a communism thing. Social democracy is different. It doesn’t involve communism. Because communism is cringe.

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

Communism isn't cringe, wtf are you talking about. And yes, if we want to discuss communism, we need to take into account that it was suggested to start with socialism beforehand.

Social democracy has jack all to do with socialism, if we want to keep being pedantic. And social democracy does not fare all that well in poorer countries, even after massive EU funds. Which is the real cringe.