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[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I completely disagree with this. People stayed home and didn't vote for Hillary in 2016 because they wanted to send a message. They didn't think Trump would be elected.

What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country who cares more about himself and his friends than what was good for the people.

I didn't like Hillary, but I voted for her. I don't like Biden but I'll vote for him because the alternative is another 4 years of people losing rights that I believe they should have.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country who cares more about himself and his friends than what was good for the people.

I wouldn't say we didn't still end up with that after 2020. Have you been out in public recently?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People stayed home and didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016 because they wanted to send a message.

I don't know about "send a message" nearly so much as "felt disillusioned and betrayed". She gave them nothing to show up for. Hell, Hillary's primary demographic was supposed to be upwardly mobile white women, and the majority of them ended up voting for Trump.

What we got was 4 years of a narcissist running the country

After Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and then Obama, this was par for the course.

If you lived through the 2002 GOP landslide, Trump wasn't anything new. The xenophobia and the white nationalism, the naked demagoguery and far-right religious fervor, the shameless pandering to a handful of insider business leaders, the bailouts and bankruptcies... It was just a repeat of the Bush Administration.

To see Democrats in leadership sucking up to the prior dipshit fascist really drove home to us old-heads what GenZ had to learn the hard way - liberals weren't going to lift a finger to this guy if they could help it.

I didn’t like Hillary, but I voted for her. I don’t like Biden but I’ll vote for him

This has been the story of American politics since at least Kennedy. The long line of "I didn't like him but I voted for him" candidates have only produced more of the same shitty guys. And the country has rotted out from the inside, as liberals continued to contend "the only thing we can do is VOTE!" while conservatives took to the streets and reshaped the country with their own bare hands.

[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you believe the previous presidents you listed were as narcissistic as Trump, I do t know what to say.

Also, Republicans have reshaped this country in a worst way. Democrats are weaker, but that is only because they don't stoop to the same level as Republicans do when it comes to politics. Dems actually try to work together, Republicans say do what I want or else. Do you remember at all the previous government shutdowns? All due to Republicans not willing to compromise. Then they do a big show saying it's all Democrats fault.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

If you believe the previous presidents you listed were as narcissistic as Trump, I do t know what to say.

Show me so much as a candidate in the last forty years who isn't dripping with narcissism.

Also, Republicans have reshaped this country in a worst way.

Whether it was the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 or the Graham-Leach-Biley of 1998 or SESTA/FOSTA in 2018 or the repeated extensions and reauthorizations of the 2001 Patriot Act, the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, or the endless wars in the Middle East, you can consistently find a large cadre of Democrats (often with Joe Biden himself at their head) paving the way for these ultra-conservative legislative changes.

All due to Republicans not willing to compromise.

In 2016, Mitch McConnell dragged out the nomination of Judge Antonin Scalia's replacement for a full ten months.

In 2020, Democrats couldn't stall the nomination of ACB as the replacement for RBG for three months.

I only wish the problem was Republicans being unwilling to compromise. Far too often, they simply play the face to policies Democrats appear more than willing to support.