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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Iran calls for it constantly

Do you have a credible source on that? Because propagandists keep claiming that without backing it up with actual evidence that they're not just making up whatever fits their narrative

Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan tried several times.

None of them anywhere near successfully and none of them in this millennium.

You can't just pretend history didn't happen.

And you can't just greatly exaggerate decades old events and pretend that they represent an imminent and existential threat.

I mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.

[–] StormFather@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

An 11 year old article quoting deliberate mistranslations of the then prime minister does not an imminent, constant, and permanent threat make.

I'd say "nice try", but that would be a lie.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How about providing a source about that mistranslation?

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a credible source on that? Because propagandists keep claiming that without backing it up with actual evidence that they're not just making up whatever fits their narrative

Turns out Wikipedia has a great article on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calls_for_the_destruction_of_Israel#:~:text=Ali%20Khamenei%2C%20Iran's%20supreme%20leader,of%20Israel%20from%20the%20region%E2%80%9D.

I recommend checking the sources to verify it yourself.

None of them anywhere near successfully and none of them in this millennium.

Of course they were not successful, otherwise they would have wiped Israel off the map like their intended goal was. Also, your claim of not in this millennium is disingenuous. There are still plenty people alive to thought in those wars on both sides.

And you can't just greatly exaggerate decades old events and pretend that they represent an imminent and existential threat.

I> mean, you obviously CAN, since you just did, but you really shouldn't.

I didn't, that was you doing that. I was simply adding context to the person I was replying to.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Turns out Wikipedia has a great article on it:

Do you have any idea how biased an article has to be for Wikipedia to put that banner at the top of the article itself rather than just a section or somewhere on the talk page?

Also, your claim of not in this millennium is disingenuous. There are still plenty people alive to thought in those wars on both sides.

What kind of nonsense is that? By that standard, the Balkan war is still ongoing 🤦

I was simply adding context to the person I was replying

If by "adding context" you mean "repeating deliberately misleading to downright fraudulent propaganda slogans", sure.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any information that doesn't follow your narrative is misinformation huh? That's the tactic you're going with to hide your own misinformation?

Those wars happened, those countries wanted to wipe Israel off the map. The US negotiated with them and gave most of them money to stop trying to destroy Israel. How about actually knowing history Instead of trying to come up with your own?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Any information that doesn't follow your narrative is misinformation huh? That's the tactic you're going with to hide your own misinformation?

The projection is strong with this one 🤦

Those wars happened, those countries wanted to wipe Israel off the map.

That doesn't allow Israel to slaughter Gazan civilians.

Just because I won't shed a tear when the genocidal fascist Netanyahu dies doesn't mean that he has a right to murder me, my family, all my neighbors and all the neighbors of my family.

The US negotiated with them and gave most of them money to stop trying to destroy Israel.

Bullshit. The US hasn't negotiated in good faith with a Palestinian leader since the 90s at the latest.

And even if they had, it wouldn't matter since it wouldn't stop the apartheid conditions and constant bombing that give the terrorists influence and therefore power in the first place.

How about actually knowing history Instead of trying to come up with your own?

You first, genocide apologist.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh geez, starting a new discussion because you were called out on your bullshit? I'm talking about surrounding countries, not the people those countries abandoned in their pursuit to destroy Israel. If you want to shift the discussion to a new topic, how about starting your own thread of discussion instead of trying to call bullshit on someone else's discussion?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know what? Fuck this shit. You're clearly not capable of arguing in good faith or incorporating any new information into your ridiculously narrow Zionist worldview, so I'm not going to waste anymore time on your willfully ignorant ass. Have the day you deserve.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

Now whose projecting? If you bothered to actually have a legitimate conversation about the topic, you wouldn't have tried steering it to a different topic instead.