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Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

look, could it be better? yes. is it nothing? no.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or is it the state just protecting and strengthening itself while using language to pretend it is on the side of the people?

The state will never execute, or legislate, our way to a better society.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

youre not wrong, but sometimes they kill a billionaire to look good, and that doesn't take us to a worse society.

like how the USSR drastically raised standards of living for the working class in the american empire just by existing. they didn't mean to. they didn't care. it was just a side effect of their dick waving.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only the heartland.

And indirectly.

Much as it also lowered the standard of living across much of Africa and Central Asia due to the proxy wars and coups.

Plus normalising executions does make the world worse.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying its generally good. I'm saying the bad guys are killing each other, hooray!

I'd much rather it happened to it without warning, just an RPG to its helicopter or some hero with a knife out of an alley, I feel like the effect of that would be better, but this isn't a bad thing.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I'm being harsh, you're just having fun. Internet misses tone of voice, so it's easy to be at off wires, I'm being too nitpick and I'd probably agree if we spoke face to face. Sorry for being an online argumentative berk. Enjoy your day.

Original: Bad guys? 🤨
Even Thatcher and Reagan had families.

Always remember: the means are the ends.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

in my experience, monsters having families should not be a point of sympathy.

they dont tend to treat us well. we're usually better off without.