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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would have a modicum of respect for them if they had chosen to act in a way that advances their political ends to some extent, even if I disagreed with their goals. This, however, is dismal.

They met up with Cuban dissent groups. That's their political goal: to network with Cuban dissent groups in Cuba and Cuban gusanos in Miami (she mentioned how she focuses her organizing on gusanos in Miami) with the ultimate political goal of toppling the Cuban government.

She's an op.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh goddamn.

Without wanting to cause drama, I have a very low bar for my expectations of the DSA (especially the executive end of it) but despite that I'm still surprised to hear about this.

On a personal level the only reason I'd ever get involved with the DSA would be to network with people on a grassroots level, especially where there aren't other options in my region, or to foment a split.

Every time I speak to a self-proclaimed "democratic socialist" or I hear about a DemSoc org invariably I come away from it even more disappointed in them. It's funny how these clowns will chastise people like me for "advocating for bloody and violent revolution" and how reformism is the correct/only way or how I need to change my rhetoric or my approach because I will "lose them"; I always respond to them telling them that they are my ideological opponent and that I neither want their approval nor am I seeking it. This usually upsets them because they tend to have a serious case of political Main Character Syndrome where they presume that everyone agrees with them, where they think that they have a special claim over the term "socialist", and they assume that everyone wants their involvement:

"I don't want to play with you!!"
"Good, I ain't playin'. Go home because you aren't wanted here."

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ugh this sucks... maybe I can help.

Can you link me to any evidence that clearly shows this person is allowing with gusanos in Miami or other people trying to overthrow Cuba's government? I will work on a resolution to expel her from DSA and get it percolating in my chapter.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have no clear links, so it's not actionable. There's enough plausible deniability that she could wiggle her way out.

From her article, there's this part:

Second, it limits the effectiveness of our external messaging and organizing, especially in regions of the country with large Hispanic and Cuban-American populations. While it is true that there are large sections of these diaspora communities, particularly Cuban exiles, who are hardcore reactionaries and have petty-bourgeois class interests, it would be a mistake to treat these communities as monolithic or immovable. In my own experience organizing in Miami, there is a large presence of Cubans in every local struggle, whether it be university students and faculty walking out against our far-right state legislature’s censorship of education, or local Starbucks workers’ struggling to unionize their stores.

So, she's based in Miami, the principle hive where all Cuban gusanos are located at. This by itself is an extremely tenuous link. But someone in the other thread dug this up:

He is one of the few journalists who cover the persecution of the San Isidro Movement and its leader Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara. In his journalistic work, he thinks it’s very important to provide the most complete information possible without getting carried away by personal feelings.

The San Isidro movement being a color revolution with NED funding.

These two facts, along with the complete disrespect for the Cuban president, paints a certain picture. It's extraordinary unlikely that someone who fraternizes with Cuban gusanos and met up with a journalist and other people closely tied with that abortive color revolution would just be someone who got tricked. There's a particular political objective she's trying to accomplish.

I don't think this is enough to kick her out, but she's someone to watch out for.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

It seems like enough is there to get her off NPC or at least out of the International Committee. I can't trust this person to represent DSA or it's members correctly.