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Not a parent yet, so take this with a big grain of salt.
But if I were to talk about piracy from a moral standpoint, I would first talk about stealing. Yes, we all know it's not the same, and it isn't, but there will certainly be someone who says it is, and it's better to clear that out. Besides, there are some parallels.
Then a bit on moral and legal grounds of piracy:
And in any case, I think the later you tell your kids about "illegal doesn't mean bad" the better. Could save a lot of trouble IMO.
Piracy decreases the profits of the publishers, publishers decrease the profits of the rightful owner. Piracy hurts the rich man, the rich man hurts the poor man. The publishers will still hurt the rightful owners whether piracy happens or not.
Only if you would otherwise have bought it. If you never had any intention to buy the thing, the rightful owner loses nothing.
I would have played no games or learnt adobe software while I was a kid if I haven't pirated it.
I started playing some of my all time favorite games pirated, because my parents didn't want to spend money on videogames and I had no credit card as a kid. Now, however, I purchased them all. (alr well, not all I'm still not rich and I didn't deem all of them worth the money ~~thrown out~~ donated. Like Sims4, I'm glad I tried it, but it costs like (Steam says all DLCs are:) 1234.22 eur, insanity)
YES. My gf made the point that when our kids are young, when their frontal lobe hasn’t developed yet, we will teach them black and white morality. But that’s only half the truth, since stealing from walmart or a big chain has a different moral flavor than stealing some random person’s things. In a way, I acknowledge that piracy isn’t stealing, and carries with it enormous societal benefits, like the freedom of information, but it’s still illegal, and I don’t want them to be OK doing illegal things.
Maybe the perfect solution is to leave out the inconvenient fact that piracy is illegal when teaching them how to pirate. LOL
Taking something from Walmart removes the item. This can increase prices for other shoppers and has consequences.
Duplicating/downloading a movie or a games does not. It just creates an identical copy and removes nothing.
Those are not really two things you can compare. I am totally OK with the latter, I consider the former unlawful. I can still go and buy a license to pirated content if I feel it's worth it after I consumed it. I guess Walmart would be very confused if you came back to pay for the banana you stole a week ago because you did enjoy it. Might even get you into trouble.
EDIT: And you're right, it doesn't make sense that piracy is illegal. The law should be changed. At least the punishment is ridiculous.
in my opinion, the key here is that asking "why?" is going to be the most important skill you can teach your kids early on. "because yes" or "because not" or "because i told so" is never a good answer, and learning to ask what moving parts there are to anything can and will open up a lot of options for things they will learn later on.
smart. though i would add that shoplifting can be bad, unless its from a corpo. but i understand not telling ur child that