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Hello everyone, with the unfortunate passing of the FISA expansion, I was left with a few questions. I tried to research it, and to me, it seems like they are beefing up surveillance with routers and ISPs (correct me if I'm wrong.) Aside from having businesses stalk you when you use their WiFi (connected with ISPs.)

And if that's the case, should I just always use a VPN? And furthermore, shouldn't you have always used a VPN prior to this anyways?

That's why I'm confused because I already thought that other businesses were collecting data and our ISPs were already sending our data away, so I'm partially confused about what the real change here with FISA is.

Any clarification and advice is greatly appreciated, thank you.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can kind of understand VPN and TOR blocking when those are often used by people wanting to post illegal content or engage in illegal activity that could also be harmful to the service that ends up blocking them. Even if it’s an extremely small fraction of the users coming from those services, depending on the action sometimes just one could be enough to make a service decide they’re not worth the potential problems.

The more cynical part of me might suspect at least some of those problematic actions are coming from people working on behalf of privacy-opposed governments to make it harder for people to use VPN/TOR for legitimate purposes. But there are probably plenty of malcontent trolls happy to watch the world burn that governments don’t need to do that.

[–] CCRhode@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can kind of understand VPN and TOR blocking when those are often used by people wanting to post illegal content or engage in illegal activity that could also be harmful to the service that ends up blocking them.

I can't understand that at all. If they are able to identify a real threat, they understand more about their users than their IP address. Blocking IPs is a brutal and lazy way to deal with an imaginary threat. I they are truly that paranoid, they should do what Reddit does: Ban everybody.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

DDoS/spam/malware/hacking from tor and/or known VPN providers is not an imaginary threat. Many companies and websites block it entirely. This is not new, imaginary or lazy.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is lazy to block all of Tor because a few bad actors come from it.

That's like blocking all emails from Nigeria just because some spammera live there.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not a few, it's many gigabits per second.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That's a few users. Temp block them when they do something malicious. Don't wholesale block someone just for making a simple GET request from an IP on Tor that hasn't done anything malicious.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tor DDoS attacks have been ongoing for years now.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 6 months ago

Right, so temp block the bad IPs 24 hours.

Don't block an entire network just because there's a few bad actors.