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The Tik Tok ban is about keeping big tech in the hands of the USA. Are my account stats better for you?
The Tik Tok ban is about keeping big tech out of the hand of enemy nation states.
In doing so, yes they have also kept it in the hands of the USA.
Why not just kill the app then instead of asking for divestment? Why do they still need it?
What do you mean kill the app? The US government doesn’t have the authority to kill the app. That isn’t one of the options in the table.
And why does who need it? Who is this “they” you’re referring to?
I assume the US government wants to force a sale to a US tech company, no? Who would presumably profit from said successful app. Why not just outright ban it here? By kill I just mean make unusable. But you knew that, silly.
Thats one of the options ByteDance has. The US government can’t force a company in a different sovereign nation to sell anything. ByteDance has two options, their app is banned in the US, or they have the opportunity to sell it to a U.S. company. That’s up to ByteDance and the CCP, not the U.S. government.
Is there precedent for something like this? I'm clearly just a regular dummy but I can't think of anything similar ever happening in this country. To me, it just seems like a bureaucratic way of strong arming a sale.
Has an enemy foreign nation with a vested interest in the mass-collection of US citizens data and the unfettered ability to manipulate and misinform the American populace, especially the youth…
…also had the means to do so, with absolutely no oversight by the government of those US citizens? No I don’t believe so. China’s influence on the minds of the average American has never been this pervasive, it is indeed unprecedented and a bona fide national security risk.
If you’re suggesting that what the government actually wants is that data for themselves… idk maybe, but not really? TikTok is the 4th largest social media service, the other 3 being American owned already, with much larger user bases, of which most TikTok users probably also use. TikTok doesn’t really have anything that the U.S. market doesn’t already have and in greater quantity. Maybe if TikTok was a company based out of Switzerland, then I might raise an eyebrow. But the fact that it’s Chinese of all things, the national security reason is just already a solid reason to ban TikTok. Whether or not there’s an interest in US government control over that data is little more than a footnote in the conversation.
The bill is worded so vaguely, it could be applied to anything. This is a massive overreach and the fact that you aren't concerned is alarming. You just don't give a fuck bc you don't like TikTok, but this isn't just about TikTok.