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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oct 7th would've never happened if israel didn't treat the Palestinians like human animals. If your excuse they hide terrorists whats your excuse for how they treat Palestinians in the west Bank where hamas isn't a thing?

[–] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ISF reported 305 shooting attacks committed in or emanating from the West Bank in 2022, more than triple the attacks (91) recorded in 2021. In press reports, Israeli officials described these incidents as terror attacks

Hamas may not be based in the West Bank but other Islamic terrorists certainly are, and Hamas is certainly widely supported there.

Where do you live? How would you treat neighbouring countries that rocket attacked you constantly and wanted you wiped out in the name of their religion?

If anything Israel showed significant restraint prior to October

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

come to another persons land

steal their land and homes

kill their children and rape their women

humiliate their people

surprised pickachu face when they get radicalized and fight back

I dont endorse the extreme actions of hamas or any other group. But lets get something straight are you saying that all the oppression Palestinians face can be explained away by extremeist groups? Do you reject all the accounts of human rights organizations which have documented the plight of the Palestinians? And do you condemn the actions of israel?

[–] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It’s a tragedy whats happening to civilians in Palestine. Hamas needs to be destroyed and I hope Israel can minimise further collateral damage. (Though it must be exceptionally difficult with the tactics Hamas use)

But I hold the jihadist organisation Hamas (that still has widespread support) fully responsible for this tragedy, as I would hold the Nazis responsible for German civilian deaths.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So why extend the destruction to hamas who commits extremists actions but not israel?

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hamas butchered innocent civilians. They're ruthless and evil. The IDF is butchering innocent civilians. They're also ruthless and evil. There's no good side to this.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's a false equivalence. Sure, there are extremist actions which you can point to. But to completely omit that it was the Palestinians people which were expelled from their land and massacred is disingenuous.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

You say this as if the Jews weren't expelled from their home and massacred.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Palestinians pushed the Jews out before too. People have been fighting over the land for almost as long as people have been growing crops.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The Palestinians are the natives. Most have cannanite DNA. Palestinians aren't just the Arabs/muslims but also include jews and Christians that have lived for as long. Jews who came from EU have no claim to the land