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    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Serious question: What makes Arch's package manager so "great"? I always just found it confusing to use. The flags don't make any sense to me. It feels like you have to add a varying number of s or y to get it to do what you want. I never found it to be any faster or slower than any of the others (apart from portage of course) out there. And apart from the flags it doesn't seem to give me any more or less trouble than the others.

    [–] wfh@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    pacman -Snstall -yefresh -yefresh -unly-upgrades

    [–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    User is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

    [–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    LOL, me using Debian for the first time.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    sudo is not installed. Check apt search sudo for possible sources.

    I figured that out after a quick search. Thanks though. I just thought it was kind of funny how I found out Debian doesn't come with sudo.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 5 points 6 months ago

    As a user it's definitely harder to get into than apt or dnf. However, as a packager, it's very easy to package new applications for pacman. That's also why the AUR offers this many packages often not found in other distros.

    [–] Encamped@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    It's fast. That's why it's great. I've considered switching to opensuse a lot, but the speed of pacman compared to how slow zypper is always drags me back to arch

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    Wow I must be doing something wrong, zypper has always been faster for me than pacman, both on my newer desktop and my older laptop

    [–] Encamped@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

    I've heard countless times it's one of the slowest package managers and the last time I tried opensuse it confirmed that, though that was a year ago, so I guess improvements have been made

    [–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Dunno. Anecdotal, a few years ago pacman appeared to be much faster than apt-get for me. Currently I don't see that very much difference but then again I haven't paid much attention to it.

    [–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

    there's nala as an upgrade to apt, but pacman iirc has a few more features still

    [–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I use tumbleweed on my desktop, but run arch on a secondary machine. From experience, pacman is much faster than zypper, even on a slower machine.