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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No, it’s just competing on degrees of awfulness. This is like saying you’re going to fall victim to one of two murders; the first one will flay you alive and let you die of infections once they set in, while the second will shoot you 3 times in the face and make sure you’re dead within ten minutes. You’re arguing the first one is better because they prolong the agony, but the outcome is the same either way.

Ah, so your opinion is that swift genocide is superior to delaying genocide. It's all the same in the end, right? Like how we all die in the end, so what's the difference between harsh circumstances and torture? All lives end in the same place, and circumstances don't determine possible courses of actions. And of course, it's not like circumstances can change, no, giving the Palestinian people more time to live will obviously have no possibilities that the swift extermination of the Palestinian people would extinguish.

Ridiculous.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not what I said at all. Rather, you're acting as though one is actually a great option, and not just possibly slightly less terrible, if not ultimately the same. As though that thin chance was supposed to be something to actually get excited about someone backing.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm really excited about the prospect of NOT being thrown into a concentration camp, personally.

As shitty as life often is in the US, I don't want it to get worse. I'm very enthusiastic about that cause, not least because I live here.

I've said it many times - though he did much more than I was expecting him to when he won the primary in 2020 (Bernie voter here), Biden is still, at his core, a moderate, milquetoast, centrist, party-consensus politician with only a handful of solid positions that he's kept throughout his career, none of which are particularly radical anyway.

But fuck, you offer me a stale slice of bread with spread so thin you can only tell which side is buttered by the glint of the light, and a literal shit sandwich, I will very quickly and without hesitation take the stale slice of bread every goddamn time if those are the only available choices, no matter how much I might want real food. And if I see 49 people voting for EVERYONE to be forcibly fed the shit sandwich, I am going to be very vocal in trying to remind everyone else that it takes 51 votes for stale bread in order for all of us to not eat shit, and that eating shit is NOT a fucking acceptable alternative.

The menu isn't going to change today. We will have to fight for that. But while invaders are pushing a battering ram to our gates is NOT the time to have that fight.

Damn. That metaphor got a bit mixed. tl;dr; I am excited about not living under fascism, not excited for Biden specifically.

[–] Belastend@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

One candidate will cause a lot more deaths than the other.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The mental gymnastics is insane. The judges score you 10 out of 10.