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[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like I get that 80 years ago something horrible happened, but these guys just keep on and on about how bad t is the only Jewish state in the world.

Why does that matter? Why is protecting an ethnostate so important?

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think the biggest factor is, even though we're talking about Jewish people, its also in christian dogma that jewish people inherit that land. So after ww2 when largely christian nations were restructuring the area, they made sure the jews get their holy land. At the expense of palestinians that werent even involved in the war.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

And they could also get Jews out of Europe by giving them the promised land. Very convenient.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because the Holocaust happened and although Jewish people weren't the only demographic to be murdered by nazis, they did face the brunt of it. Add to that a 2000 yr diaspora and you can see why they would like a homeland.

The problem is Palestinian people lived on that land for 2000 years so they have a right to it as well.

Imo the best thing to do is divide Israel in half and give Jewish and Palestinian equal portions. But we're a long way from that happening, if ever.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are hardly the only diaspora that's been through traumatic events. Ethnostates always end up this way.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And we shouldn't be forcing anyone out to make new ethnostates. It's the worst form of colonialism.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say force anyone out?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

You don't need to say it. It's implied in colonialism.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The thing I've seen bandied about is a UN-administrated state combining both territories, policed by UN forces until a proper bipartisan government consisting of Israelis AND Palestinians is elected, ready, and able to take control - and even then subject to "hey we'll come back if things get bad again".