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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15001340

"Such an invasion could lead to horrific massacres and raise scenarios of a second Nakba," the Gaza-based Palestinian Center for Human Rights said recently. "After 200 days of horrific genocidal acts in Gaza, the real objectives of the attack are the continuation of the 76-year-long ongoing Nakba and the erasure and genocidal destruction of the Palestinian people in Gaza. Israel is laying the groundwork to fulfill its settler-colonial plan of colonizing Gaza."

Human rights defenders have warned that Israel may ultimately seek to ethnically cleanse as many Palestinians as possible from Gaza.

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[–] pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they really do that the irony of Jews doing ethnic cleansing would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 116 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Please don't call Israel "the Jews." I am a Jew and I do not stand with Israel. Israel wants you to think all Jews are Israelis and all Israelis are Jews.

[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just to add to this; half of the global Jewish population lives in the US. We’re not all Israeli.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, I've never even been to Israel. I don't particularly want to go other than seeing the archaeology. I was born in Indiana. I have far more in common with Christians from Indiana than I do a Jew from Haifa.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

The fun thing with the people downvoting my above comment is that it's hard to know if they're pissed off because I don't support Israel or don't like that I'm a Jew.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 months ago

Me too. I'm seriously considering buying a kippah to visually make this point.

For the sake of completeness, Israel does happen to be Jewish, just like Hamas happens to be Muslim. And yeah, in light of recent history that's ironic. Hopefully nobody here has forgotten we don't all agree with our (distant, in my case) relatives.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am not a Jew, but I have to recognize that many of the people most fiercely standing up against Israeli human rights violations are Jews.

In the USA, Bernie Sanders, Robbert Reich and Chuck Schumer are three Jewish politicians that have been very consistent in their messaging.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

I’d argue they’re notable because they’re Jewish, and are afforded an odd ‘extra legitimacy’ to criticize Israel because of that - until the ‘self hating Jew’ trope is brought out…

I am constantly disappointed that society as a whole cannot see through the obvious ploys by the hyper-partisans to hijack and disrupt honest discussion by treating all criticism as anti-Semitic

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 3 months ago

There's a difference between Jews and "the Jews". Your comment is not at all incorrect but it doesn't apply to the comment you responded to.

Some of the Israeli Jews that are commiting genocide right now are decendents of Holocaust survivors, so I would say the irony is definitely there.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't worry, I usually don't (and I didn't say "the Jews", just "Jews" - big difference, since a "the" in front of it would imply that it's all while without "the" it's just a part of them).

It just was needed in this context for the sake of my comment (the irony would be harder to understand otherwise).

I apologise