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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 56 points 6 months ago (34 children)

As "funny" as this might be, if you don't fucking vote Biden you're likely voting for a huge world wide change off a cliff. If Trump wins, then your precious Gaza will be wiped out or whatever similar words he used. And that is just the start. His claims, he wants to be a dictator, the 2025 document basically wishes the US to become Gilead, and lots more fun stuff.

Seriously, maybe this might be slightly panicky, but these are things that are in all seriousness claimed by the Republican party and Trump. That is what you will be voting for if you don't vote Biden , so how about you shut the . up for now about this, at least until after the elections?

On a side note, I can guarantee you that these groups end up receiving funding from Russia and whatnot. Not that they do that willingly or knowingly, but with Russia continuously meddling in US politics, you can rest assured that Putin won't sit by while this is happening, he needs his useful idiot in US power.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago (7 children)

You know who could very quickly win those voters back and make sure he wins in a landslide? Joe Biden. And you know what is all that he has to do for it? Stop sending weapons and money to Israel. This is already what the US laws mandate by the way. So all he has to do is uphold US laws he is currently breaking

Bonus points for recognizing Palestine internationally and getting Israeli war criminals in front of the ICC.

Why are you blaming the victims of Bidens politics instead of Biden, who has all the power to change these things right now?

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Bonus points for recognizing Palestine internationally and getting Israeli war criminals in front of the ICC.

That is laughable. A US president to get war criminals before a court that the US does not recognize.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

You know who could lose the elections if he pushes against the Israeli government causing disenfranchised Jewish voters?

Yeah. It's not that easy.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 24 points 6 months ago (38 children)

if you don't fucking vote Biden

your precious Gaza

so how about you shut the . up for now about this, at least until after the elections?

I can guarantee you that these groups end up receiving funding from Russia and whatnot

You can fuck ALL the way off with that bullshit. Libs like this are going to guarantee low turnout if they keep callously screaming shit like this to people who feel strongly about not being party to butchering children.

Instead of threatening and blaming voters you should be threatening and blaming the administration for alienating and disenfranchising millions of voters who would otherwise vote for him.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, and all of it is pretty on point, like it or not.

Go vote trump, or that brain worm guy, or don't vote at all. Trump will then win and when he's been in for a year, let's talk again and see how well your argument held up.

I'd love to do anything else than what I'm doing now but stakes are rather high, not only for Palestinians, not only for Americans.

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[–] endhits@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Criticism of Biden is not endorsement of trump. The people protesting are likely progressives who hate trump.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Criticize him all you want, but please wait until the election is over? Pretty please? Last thing we need is people lashing out and not voting at all, that's how you get another 4 years of trump

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh I will still vote Biden despite being seriously pissed at him.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you.

When he's in, criticize all you want but right now bigger issues and such

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have sent him a few letters already, and will not plan to stop. I have also told Obama the ways I was disappointed in him.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah I don't think that matter much, it's not like he will be reading these letters himself. But you do you, for sure.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Damn and here I was letting genocide distract me from the election cycle. Boy is my face red.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree that everyone should vote Biden in November, but no... this can't wait until then. Biden needs to address this, and he's absolutely earning the nickname we see here by failing to do so.

He didn't start this mess, and we probably can't abandon Israel as an ally for a myriad of tactical and political reasons... But we can and should address the weapons being sent over regularly.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

I agree it can't wait, but it will have to. You forget that Biden amhas more things to take into account than just our opinions on it, right as we may be. If he kicks the Israeli government he might disenfranchise the Jewish community who then may decide not to vote for him, then Trump it is and bye bye Palestinians. It must suck to be in his place.

Anyway, I would not immediately assume that Biden is loving this genocide, he likely has many things to consider

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