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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"I" won't be bringing any such worse outcome, Biden will be bringing it about himself by losing.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

you should be threatening and blaming the administration for alienating and disenfranchising millions of voters who would otherwise vote for him.

I'm talking about these people who would otherwise vote for him. The ones who will, by not voting for Biden, increase the changes of a worse outcome for something they claim to care about.

But hey, their conscience will be clear not having voted for Biden, right?

These people are either:

  1. Full of shit, larping as leftists
  2. Complete fucking idiots
[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And Biden's will be clear for being able to blame them for his loss, I assume?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Blaming someone for an election loss has nothing to do with morals or conscience so I don't follow.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

Conscience has something to do with guilt and blame, doesn't it? It at least deals with the attribution of harm, and my point is that attributing the 'increase in chances of harm' to protestors a bit misplaced, since it's Biden who has the agency to act against Israel, not the protestors.

The protestors are simply modeling the behavior they want to see from Biden: withhold support (or threaten to do so) from Israel until some concession is made. Either Israel will relent or we'll reduce their ability to continue their assault on Gaza.