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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We should not throw out our rights, just because China doesn't have those same rights.

China should be the example of a bad way to monitor the internet, not the end goal.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If Tiktok wasn't caught censoring people's posts for various reasons, we could consider it a free speech platform, but as it stands, it's an advertisement platform. We've already lost better forms of speech on the internet. I have no horse in this particular race.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is true for any social platform. They're all advertisement platforms. Where is the line between censorship and moderation? The solution here isn't to draw arbitrary lines in the sand of free speech, it's to promote data transparency laws. Let everyone know what data is kept and how it's used and let them decide where to go and how to put pressure on the platforms they care about for change.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look, Tiktok has the backing of a corporation worth $225 billion. Not my problem.

I've donated to the EFF. Why don't we talk more about them? The two main people complaining about the Tiktok ban are "Influences" and dopamine addicts.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Hi, I don't use TikTok, I don't really give a shit about that particular platform. I do, however, give a shit about the fact that this one platform is being targeted with some "think of the children" rhetoric while American companies get away with the same things (manipulation regarding current events, political propaganda, appeasing the almighty advertisers) without anyone batting an eye.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

it's an advertisement platform

Advertisements and CCP propaganda.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I was trying to be impartial. You can consider all propaganda to be a form of advertisement and all advertisement to be a form of propaganda. The same academic study goes into both.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

ah yes the famous mix of communist propaganda and capitalist advertisers.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

We should also not allow any company that has lied directly to the US public and the government to continue to be a private company.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So basically all big companies, certainly all major social media platforms, have to shut down or be nationalized?

Sounds a bit drastic but ok, I'm with you!

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure, pre "trickle down" Canada crown corporations: Passenger Trains, now private(Via Rail) Oil: Imperial Oil, now Enbridge(and its insane russian doll network of shell companies) and Petro-Canada ISPs: BCTel+AlbertaTel: Telus, Ontario and Quebec: Bell Even just that subset would drastically change Canada for the absolute better.