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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What's important to note is that people have been doing it according to your politics for decades, and it has produced the situation we're in right now.

It kind of seems like the lesser of two evils and pied piper strategies are actually closer to being the tracks in this metaphor, not the people who refuse to vote for Fascist Lite.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is what always bothers me about the vote shaming crowd. Yes, we need to reelect Biden because Trump is a literal fascist who will end American democracy, but we need to have a hard look at how we got into this position, starting with Democrats embrace of neo-liberalism in the 90s and ending with the fact that the party is running a candidate that 67% of their own voters didn't want on the ticket. And no, Biden and Trump are not the same, but George W. and Obama were pretty damn similar, as well as Clinton, Regan, and the first Bush. If the Democrats don't start offering and actual progressive alternative to the right, we're just going to keep doing this until a more competent fascist finally wins.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

we need to have a hard look at how we got into this position,

I will scream this unpopular message until I turn blue. Get involved in your local community politics.

We all only seem to care about electoralism every four years when we're presented with a disgusting choice that disheartens us all and makes people cynical and feel unable to affect change. Meanwhile, there might be uncontested elections running in your county RIGHT NOW that will decide how much and what kind of support will be given to your district, how your schools will be run, how your taxes will be used. Even just pushing back against local political candidates you don't agree with sends a powerful message, that we demand actual representation, not WWE theater like the fascists want to make it.

Our federal government is the peak of a pyramid. We're all clawing and scrambling to make the peak all polished and shiny according to our own values, meanwhile the giant foundation is just crumbling every day, threatening to bring the whole thing down.

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

Actual progressive alternatives to the right don't have a majority in the US, sadly.