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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And what do you think the EV rebates in the US are?

Fuck the rich. I need a cheap, safe, and reliable vehicle to get to work.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do you understand the difference between subsidizing domestic purchases and subsidizing export production?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I pay for the domestic subsidy, not the chinese subsidy.

That is a hilariously myopic and egocentric way of looking at the situation, to the extent that it makes me suspicious that you’re on the conservative spectrum.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand that free money on domestic purchases can be used however the corporation pleases? There's not some magical divide.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Bro. The rebates go to the buyer. They don’t go to the corps. It’s specifically targeted to make it cheaper for US residents to buy EVs in America.

Edit: actually, more foundational question: do you understand the difference between production subsidy and purchase rebate? And do you understand that the rebate is not applicable outside of the US?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So the company doesn't get the sale price? Why does the customer need the rebate if they haven't given the company that money in the first place?

Do you not understand how a purchase works?

Take your bad faith bullshit somewhere else.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think I’m gonna block you because you seem like kind of a jerk

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Yeah I tend to be a jerk when someone starts trying to sound smart by making distinctions without a difference as a way to cast doubt.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Allowing a country's political party to position their industry in a monopolistic way is a bad idea. When one group controls an industry they much more easily exploit their consumers. Encouraging folks to buy ev's in general is different from undercutting prices to create a dominant position in the market that can be exploited once you have no meaningful competitors

That being said, we all know thats not why they're doing it, they're doing it to protect the interests of US auto makers, which also sucks

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

China is hardly going to be able to under cut the Big 3. Unless they just refuse to come down on their prices. More competition stops monopolistic forces, not the other way around. This narrative has been going around like our auto industry is some mom and pop shop that needs protection from Walmart. In reality they're the monopolistic force in our market and you can see that by the insane prices they are charging.