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I have to teach my daughter different things than my son (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world to c/comics@lemmy.ml

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[+] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's super ironic that you are the top comment in THIS thread.

Hi again, you assumed that I thought deep fakes worked off magicly making nudes and just didn't understand the technology of aggregation as opposed to listening to the ways that women are being blackmailed and harassed by it. And that even if deepfake is exponentially faster and more accessible, it's nothing new or different than drawing a picture of someone naked, even in the age of social media

Instead of actually listening you were arrogant, dismissive and hostile. You are the man in this comic. You are the person who is not harmed by deep fakes, so it's not a real problem.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It’s been a while so idk if you remember, but as soon as I realized what you meant I immediately owned up to my mistake. This was from one of the last comments I made to you back then:

I’m not trying to be disingenuous, it genuinely sounded like you didn’t realize, that’s my bad.

I thought you meant something that you didn’t. The second I realized, I admitted that I was at fault. I fucked up there, and I’m sorry for that.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And the very next thing you said was...

Imo as these become widespread, we’ll inevitably reach a point where nudes simply don’t matter. If anyone can create a nude of someone else with next to no effort in seconds, then a nude getting “leaked” would have next to no impact or relevance.

So yes, you apologized for assuming I didn't understand what I was talking about, but you then double down ignoring the harassment I was bringing up. I'm not interested in discussing any part of this with you, we already have gone round and round. I was just shocked, amazed to read you today and had to highlight your lack of self awareness in saying

“I’ve never experienced it so you must just be imagining it”

Harassment of women with deepfakes has no impact or relevance, because hostility to women only has no impact or relevance to you.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m… a little confused. That comment of mine has nothing to do with my comment above or the post.

The post is about people’s ignorance, and their refusal to accept that there may be anything outside of their limited perspective.

I never said that your point wasn’t valid, or was made up. I simply didn’t agree with it, and had my own opinion. My last comment to you back then literally talked about the fact that I feel terrible for those negatively impacted by this, acknowledging that it’s a real thing that affects real people.

Someone acknowledging yet disagreeing with you isn’t the same at what’s in this post, and imo does it a massive disservice, as its about a lot more than that.

Here’s my comment for clarity:

Right now we live in a pretty puritan society, so the transitional phase is going to suck and people are going to be hurt. Obviously that’s awful, and none of this should take away from that fact, I feel horrible for the people negatively impacted by this.

And while that’s all true, it’s also true that as we continue going down this road we’ll reach a point where it simply won’t matter anymore.

The first part clearly addresses and acknowledges reality. I’m in no way dismissing it, pretending it doesn’t exist, or saying that “because I don’t experience it it isn’t real”. I fully acknowledge that it’s real and is a serious issue.

The second part is my own opinion in addition to it. It doesn’t take away from the first part, this isn’t a zero sum game, both can be true. I have my own opinion while fully acknowledging your own and seeing the validity of it.